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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Awfully warm out for June.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,807 Standard Supporter
    dnc said:

    Westbrook doesn't make others better.

    Doesn't mean he isn't a great player - but he is anything but a great point guard.


    This is like people who argue Russell Wilson isn't a great QB because so much of his value is tied up in his running.

    Just because Westbrook doesn't fit the traditional definition of the position doesn't mean he's not a great PG. All this time I thought Westbrook was holding Durant back and it turns out it was the other way around.
    Russell Wilson has a ring. Tony Parker has rings.

    OKC might make the playoffs.

    Bad analogy.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Westbrook was MVP for my Heat in the Finals

    It's a nice sound bite but it's false.

    Westbrook was bad in game 3 and abysmal in game 5. Games 1 and 2 he was good and game 4 he was spectular.

    Scott Brooks is the first person deserving of blame.

    James Harden was second. Westbrook went 4-20 in game 5 and he still shot 5% points higher for the series than Harden.

    Even third place I'd give to Serge Ibaka. He averaged 7 points and 5 rebounds for that series and he shot worse than Westbrook. For gods sakes Perkins averaged more rebounds than Ibaka. In fact looking at these stats I'm wondering if Ibaka was hurt. I don't remember him being hurt but his numbers look like he was playing with two broken ankles.

    You can even make a case that Westbrook was better than Durant. Durant shot a much better percentage but Westbrook grabbed slightly more rebounds (Durant is 7 feet tall) Westbrook averaged 4 more assists per game. Durant had a pathetic 11 assists and 19 turnovers in 5 games. Westbrook only had 11 turnovers which is pretty spectacular against that trapping Heat defense.

    Furthermore if Durant had been able to guard Lebron the series would have been completely different. Instead OKC had to resort to sticking Harden on Lebron at times because they were so desperate.

    Really the only thing Westbrook did wrong was shoot too many 3s. If you take those shots away he shot 49%. That's fine.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,259
    Steph Curry #1 ... nothing else needs to be said than this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA3Y94CINZ0
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club

    Westbrook was MVP for my Heat in the Finals

    It's a nice sound bite

    If you take those shots away he shot 49%.
    Thanks.

    If your argument contains the phrase "if you take away..." you should re think your argument.

    It was the quantity of shots by Westbrook that made him MVP for the Heat. I don't do analyticals because I'm old and write by feel but I did look up the stats for this series.

    Durant shot 54% and Westbrook shot 43%. Every shot he took away from Durant helped Miami as well as demoralized OKC. Westbrook shot 13% from 3. You can't take that away. Durant was 39% from three. Who would you rather have shooting?

    Yes there is plenty of blame to go around and Brooks is the coach and should have been fired at mid court. But for the players it was Westbrook's gunning and missing that set the tone.

    He is much improved now.

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Westbrook was MVP for my Heat in the Finals

    It's a nice sound bite

    If you take those shots away he shot 49%.
    Thanks.

    If your argument contains the phrase "if you take away..." you should re think your argument.

    It was the quantity of shots by Westbrook that made him MVP for the Heat. I don't do analyticals because I'm old and write by feel but I did look up the stats for this series.

    Durant shot 54% and Westbrook shot 43%. Every shot he took away from Durant helped Miami as well as demoralized OKC. Westbrook shot 13% from 3. You can't take that away. Durant was 39% from three. Who would you rather have shooting?

    Yes there is plenty of blame to go around and Brooks is the coach and should have been fired at mid court. But for the players it was Westbrook's gunning and missing that set the tone.

    He is much improved now.

    Agree to disagree.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    Westbrook was MVP for my Heat in the Finals

    It's a nice sound bite

    If you take those shots away he shot 49%.
    Thanks.

    If your argument contains the phrase "if you take away..." you should re think your argument.

    It was the quantity of shots by Westbrook that made him MVP for the Heat. I don't do analyticals because I'm old and write by feel but I did look up the stats for this series.

    Durant shot 54% and Westbrook shot 43%. Every shot he took away from Durant helped Miami as well as demoralized OKC. Westbrook shot 13% from 3. You can't take that away. Durant was 39% from three. Who would you rather have shooting?

    Yes there is plenty of blame to go around and Brooks is the coach and should have been fired at mid court. But for the players it was Westbrook's gunning and missing that set the tone.

    He is much improved now.

    Agree to disagree.
    I'd prefer to engage in a lengthy string of name calling sir!
    Shut up pussyhole.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,040 Founders Club
    Liberal faggot