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Mark Emmert says he's 'concerned' about Indiana's new anti-gay law

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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,273
    edited March 2015
    Denying service to a certain population for religious beliefs.

    That's not a slippery slope at all.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    I didn't realize Christian Laettner was a pillow biter.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646

    The market will work it out. A few back country businesses that give a shit isn't worth getting all worked up over. 99% 81% of Indiana businesses will not turn down a buck from the LGBT community. They will go out of their way to advertise that they are gay friendly.

    Emmert should just shut the fuck up as usual

    This. If you want to be the person/business to turn down service for stuff like this, fine, by all means go ahead. Good luck with that in today's social media world. The bigger impact is for abortion and stuff like that.
  • sjd
    sjd Member Posts: 270

    Outsports is my source???

    Outsports is my source???

    ;)
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,069
    No big thing -it's the mens final four in Indy.

    The bull dyke women's tournament is in homo-friendly Tampa Bay.

  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    The market will work it out. A few back country businesses that give a shit isn't worth getting all worked up over. 99% 81% of Indiana businesses will not turn down a buck from the LGBT community. They will go out of their way to advertise that they are gay friendly.

    Emmert should just shut the fuck up as usual

    Sounds like the front porch of Indiana needs some fixin' up.
  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    Almost as if Mark has an abundance of free time to concern himself with stupid shit like this.
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Since Indiana was already one of the states that did not protect all LGBT workers from employment discrimination, does this law now state that if a local government wanted to institute an anti-discrimination policy on its own, that that would be illegal? Or maybe a city/county could pass a policy, but people would not have to follow it?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    My understanding is it is pretty narrow. You have to show a legitimate infringement on your religious beliefs. It's the gay wedding cake deal. I don't think you can discriminate in employment.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,288 Founders Club

    My understanding is it is pretty narrow. You have to show a legitimate infringement on your religious beliefs. It's the gay wedding cake deal. I don't think you can discriminate in employment.

    I agree with what you said earlier, the market will correct itself. If you don't like the gays and don't want their business, then you lose out on their business and the business of those who support them.

    I feel like this bill will just tilt things enough so that if you're that grounded by your faith, it's your choice but if you're one of the gays and offended by this, then you can't file a lawsuit over it either.
  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    So I read a little more, and the burden is on the government to prove it has a "compelling interest" to pass a law. So this makes it difficult for local governments.

    Indiana does not allow discrimination in state government employment. In other forms of employment it is like the majority of states where an employer can walk up to a worker and say "Hey, you're my best worker, but I didn't know that you are gay. You're fired!"
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    As a gay man, I'm offended!!!!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    As a gay man, I'm offended!!!!

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  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    As a gay man, I'm offended!!!!

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    String!! True??
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited March 2015

    So I read a little more, and the burden is on the government to prove it has a "compelling interest" to pass a law. So this makes it difficult for local governments.

    Indiana does not allow discrimination in state government employment. In other forms of employment it is like the majority of states where an employer can walk up to a worker and say "Hey, you're my best worker, but I didn't know that you are gay. You're fired!"

    Compelling state interest only applies to laws that restrict a constitutional right. It can be argued that there are competing constitutional rights here; therefore no "compelling state interest" test. I would argue that if the business has competitors that will provide substitute services, no rights have been infringed on LGBT's. However, it's certainly murky enough so a judge can rule any damn way they want.

    In your second example, unless you have a written contract you are an "at will" employee, subject to the will of your employer, unless you are a protected class, (race, Viet Nam Vet, etc.). But don't trust me, Honda says I never went to Law School.

    BTW, I am unaware of any employment case where a court protected the employment rights of a Viet Nam Vet. So much for "caring" about Vets. Just another law to get us to vote for Patty "If I Only Had a Brain" Murray, even though she votes against every piece of meaningful Veteran legislation.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    The market will work it out. A few back country businesses that give a shit isn't worth getting all worked up over. 99% 81% of Indiana businesses will not turn down a buck from the LGBT community. They will go out of their way to advertise that they are gay friendly.

    Emmert should just shut the fuck up as usual

    So this is what literally worshipping the dollar looks like.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Everyone has a price