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Republicans have full control, let's balance the budget finally

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
edited March 2015 in Tug Tavern
Oh wait, it's gonna take 10 years? And in the backs of the poor and elderly, while the defense budget gets an increase.... What could go wrong there?

House Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price, R-Ga., and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., plan to produce blueprints that would balance the budget within 10 years — without raising taxes.

Instead, they will propose major spending cuts to programs such as Medicare, health care subsidies, food stamps and the Medicaid program for the poor and elderly to produce a budget that's balanced. Such cuts, if actually implemented later, would likely slash spending by $5 trillion or so over the coming decade from budgets that are presently on track to spend almost $50 trillion over that timeframe.

"If we're going to have a lower (defense) number than the president of the United States is proposing, we have no credibility on saying that we are committed to defending this nation — not when every service chief, every witness before our committee says it will devastate ... our ability to defend the nation," McCain said. "You can't do that and claim that you care about national defense."


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/gop-offer-budget-blueprint-medicare-070808130.html
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  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    We should just keep spending $1 trillion more a year then we take it. No problems there.

    And are they actual "cuts", or are they just cuts in the 8-10% year over year growth rates (to something like 3-5% increases).

    I know you don't actually know this...
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    We should just keep spending $1 trillion more a year then we take it. No problems there.

    And are they actual "cuts", or are they just cuts in the 8-10% year over year growth rates (to something like 3-5% increases).

    I know you don't actually know this...

    I don't know this, but yet, you think we spend a trillion more than we take in every year. Got it.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
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    This is a gift to the Dems
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    The Executive Branch, and the VETO super majority rule both disagree with your title.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,011
    2001400ex said:

    We should just keep spending $1 trillion more a year then we take it. No problems there.

    And are they actual "cuts", or are they just cuts in the 8-10% year over year growth rates (to something like 3-5% increases).

    I know you don't actually know this...

    I don't know this, but yet, you think we spend a trillion more than we take in every year. Got it.
    Why would I think that? Let's see...

    2009 - $1.4 trillion
    2010 - $1.3 trillion
    2011 - $1.3 trillion
    2012 - $1.1 trillion
    2013 - $0.7 trillion
    2014 - $0.5 trillion
    2015* - $0.6 trillion (estimated to go back up, and that's before bringing in reality which is that there is no chance in hell we have almost 4% GDP growth and all the other optimism).

    Figured out the answer on the "cuts" yet? Didn't think so...
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,520
    "On the backs of the poor and elderly"

    I always find that talking point especially stupid because it's as if anyone who uses that phrase forgets that we are talking about massive government programs, which are uniquely vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse.

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/09/Social-Security-Watchdog-I-See-Dead-People

    Or how about food stamps, whose budget has increased nearly 50% under Obama and abuse is rampant particularly since the program has grown?

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/02/26/74-Billion-Food-Stamp-Program-Budget-Crosshairs

    As for Medicare, fraud is so widespread that about 10% of all Medicare billings are fraudulent and it even has its own Wikipedia page:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

    And for Medicaid, Social Security Disability fraud has also been an increasing problem:

    reformssdinow.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Fraud-SSDI.pdf

    So don't you think if each of the budgets are trimmed it will sharpen the "minds" at these departments to hasten their work on rooting out fraud and abuse? Or will they prove that bureaucrats are mostly lazy pieces of shit who maintain the status quo of letting our taxpayer dollars walk out the door?


  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    14 year old Honda's don't maintain themselves. Sometimes you have to convince Mom to take your atv to the dealer so someone with skills can repair it.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,613 Founders Club
    Add budget hawk to hondo s resume
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HFNY said:

    "On the backs of the poor and elderly"

    I always find that talking point especially stupid because it's as if anyone who uses that phrase forgets that we are talking about massive government programs, which are uniquely vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse.

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/09/Social-Security-Watchdog-I-See-Dead-People

    Or how about food stamps, whose budget has increased nearly 50% under Obama and abuse is rampant particularly since the program has grown?

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/02/26/74-Billion-Food-Stamp-Program-Budget-Crosshairs

    As for Medicare, fraud is so widespread that about 10% of all Medicare billings are fraudulent and it even has its own Wikipedia page:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

    And for Medicaid, Social Security Disability fraud has also been an increasing problem:

    reformssdinow.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Fraud-SSDI.pdf

    So don't you think if each of the budgets are trimmed it will sharpen the "minds" at these departments to hasten their work on rooting out fraud and abuse? Or will they prove that bureaucrats are mostly lazy pieces of shit who maintain the status quo of letting our taxpayer dollars walk out the door?


    Because there's no fraud, waste, or abuse in defense? No corporate welfare we can cut?

    Here's my point. Cut from everywhere. You don't read well.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,520
    You're not too knowledgeable about the budget are you?

    Did you know that defense has already been cut? And did you know that they are already (wisely) looking at trimming the overly generous benefits that military spouses receive?

    And exactly what "corporate welfare" would you like to cut? The devil is in the details.
    2001400ex said:

    HFNY said:

    "On the backs of the poor and elderly"

    I always find that talking point especially stupid because it's as if anyone who uses that phrase forgets that we are talking about massive government programs, which are uniquely vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse.

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/09/Social-Security-Watchdog-I-See-Dead-People

    Or how about food stamps, whose budget has increased nearly 50% under Obama and abuse is rampant particularly since the program has grown?

    thefiscaltimes.com/2015/02/26/74-Billion-Food-Stamp-Program-Budget-Crosshairs

    As for Medicare, fraud is so widespread that about 10% of all Medicare billings are fraudulent and it even has its own Wikipedia page:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_fraud

    And for Medicaid, Social Security Disability fraud has also been an increasing problem:

    reformssdinow.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Fraud-SSDI.pdf

    So don't you think if each of the budgets are trimmed it will sharpen the "minds" at these departments to hasten their work on rooting out fraud and abuse? Or will they prove that bureaucrats are mostly lazy pieces of shit who maintain the status quo of letting our taxpayer dollars walk out the door?


    Because there's no fraud, waste, or abuse in defense? No corporate welfare we can cut?

    Here's my point. Cut from everywhere. You don't read well.