Wilner Woodshed's the Pac12 Network
I don't really give a shit about this stuff, but I know some out here like to beat this up.
In two years, the Big Ten will have a new Tier I deal, and it’s expected to be a whopper.
At that point, the cycle will be complete. All the leagues will have renegotiated their deals in the era of soaring rights, and the Pac-12 could very well be in the same position it was five years ago relative to the SEC and Big Ten:
That position is millions of dollars behind on a per-school basis.
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But how is Larry Scott a fucking idiot?
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Back to where it all started.
I don't really think this is a story, anyone with half-a-brain knew that this would happen once every other conference got their new TV deal. TV executives aren't dummies, they know people in B1G and SEC country will pay/watch way more content than PAC12 people. It was just a matter of time til this happened and everything is right back to where it is supposed to be.
Only thing this really effects is schools like: OSU, Utah, WSU and the Arizona schools to an extent because they aren't getting as much as their peers, they don't have as much to spend (besides UA Bball), and no one really gives a rip about them. Add that to the fact that cost of attendance is going to take millions out of their pockets each year, along with full-time nutritional staffs, paying for food, etc. and those are some big new costs coming up for the smaller schools.
If anything this is good news again for schools like USC, UCLA, UW, UO because of their built in advantages. -
But but but people like watching replays of softball classics during prime time
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Do the other conference networks suck as much as the pac12 network? P12 is root sports level or worse
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I would do Ashley Adamson in a heartbeat.phineas said:Do the other conference networks suck as much as the pac12 network? P12 is root sports level or worse
In.a.heartbeat.
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My nuts on her chin...PurpleThrobber said:
I would do Ashley Adamson in a heartbeat.phineas said:Do the other conference networks suck as much as the pac12 network? P12 is root sports level or worse
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I can watch every network except the pac12 network
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Relevant:RaccoonHarry said:
My nuts on her chin...PurpleThrobber said:
I would do Ashley Adamson in a heartbeat.phineas said:Do the other conference networks suck as much as the pac12 network? P12 is root sports level or worse
In.a.heartbeat.
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The bottom line is that most of the schools in the Big 10 and SEC are totally invested in everything about their schools ... in the PAC we have so many other interests that we're not invested in sitting down on Saturday afternoon and planning our time around the baseball team.
Think about it this way ... LSU fills up 10k per game for baseball. PAC schools? Not so much. That's one of the biggest differences.
Of course, the other primary difference is that those outside of the West Coast could care less about the PAC for the most part ... whereas people from around the country have ties to the Big 10 and SEC. -
WTF?!? I mean WTF!!!!SpoonieLuv said:
I drop an Ashley Adamson reference and it gets one upvote and one WTF!.
Somebody else drops pics of Larry Fucking Scott and they get two Awesomes.
That's just wrong.
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Why would you want to watch college baseball when you could in the mountains, on your boat, chilling on the beach, etc.Tequilla said:The bottom line is that most of the schools in the Big 10 and SEC are totally invested in everything about their schools ... in the PAC we have so many other interests that we're not invested in sitting down on Saturday afternoon and planning our time around the baseball team.
Think about it this way ... LSU fills up 10k per game for baseball. PAC schools? Not so much. That's one of the biggest differences.
Of course, the other primary difference is that those outside of the West Coast could care less about the PAC for the most part ... whereas people from around the country have ties to the Big 10 and SEC. -
Mine movesPurpleThrobber said:
WTF?!? I mean WTF!!!!SpoonieLuv said:
I drop an Ashley Adamson reference and it gets one upvote and one WTF!.
Somebody else drops pics of Larry Fucking Scott and they get two Awesomes.
That's just wrong.
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In two years, the Big Ten will have a new Tier I deal, and it’s expected to be a whopper.
Until it's the P12's turn to renew, when it will again (briefly) have the most lucrative TV deal. Then the SEC will trump it, then the BTen will trump that, and so on ad infinitum. The key word here is "cycle."
At that point, the cycle will be complete. All the leagues will have renegotiated their deals in the era of soaring rights, and the Pac-12 could very well be in the same position it was five years ago relative to the SEC and Big Ten:
That position is millions of dollars behind on a per-school basis.
How is any of this evidence of Larry Scott's incompetence? At least he's got the Pac in that top 3 group, well ahead of the B12s and ACCs of the college world. -
How is any of this evidence of Larry Scott's incompetence? At least he's got the Pac in that top 3 group, well ahead of the B12s and ACCs of the college world.TTJ said:In two years, the Big Ten will have a new Tier I deal, and it’s expected to be a whopper.
At that point, the cycle will be complete. All the leagues will have renegotiated their deals in the era of soaring rights, and the Pac-12 could very well be in the same position it was five years ago relative to the SEC and Big Ten:
That position is millions of dollars behind on a per-school basis.
Are you new or related to Fleenor? The Pac12 network sucks.
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You realize you just proved my point?doogsinparadise said:
Why would you want to watch college baseball when you could in the mountains, on your boat, chilling on the beach, etc.Tequilla said:The bottom line is that most of the schools in the Big 10 and SEC are totally invested in everything about their schools ... in the PAC we have so many other interests that we're not invested in sitting down on Saturday afternoon and planning our time around the baseball team.
Think about it this way ... LSU fills up 10k per game for baseball. PAC schools? Not so much. That's one of the biggest differences.
Of course, the other primary difference is that those outside of the West Coast could care less about the PAC for the most part ... whereas people from around the country have ties to the Big 10 and SEC. -
Meh. There's a lot of things I'd change if I was running the network. But it's making money for the league.MisterEm said:Are you new or related to Fleenor? The Pac12 network sucks. HTH
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Jesus Christ.Tequilla said:The bottom line is that most of the schools in the Big 10 and SEC are totally invested in everything about their schools ... in the PAC we have so many other interests that we're not invested in sitting down on Saturday afternoon and planning our time around the baseball team.
Think about it this way ... LSU fills up 10k per game for baseball. PAC schools? Not so much. That's one of the biggest differences.
Of course, the other primary difference is that those outside of the West Coast could care less about the PAC for the most part ... whereas people from around the country have ties to the Big 10 and SEC.
This is about as stupid a fucking statement as I have ever seen you type.
Are you saying people from the Pac don't ever leave the west coast?
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No - what I'm saying is that we don't quite have that built in gung ho unbridled support and interest in ALL of the programs and going ons as those in other parts of the country. Those in the SEC tend to revolve around what is going on with their schools.
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So if you’re scoring at home, we have these projections for TV-related revenue for 2017-18, on a per-school basis:
SEC: $35.6 million
Big Ten: $33 million
Pac-12: $22.95 million
shit guys, in poor flyover states, they have nothing but football so it make sense they get more scrilla.
if im larry scott (which im glad im not), im not overly pissed here*.
if im mike slive im thinking "we only get $2.6mm more than the b0g? what the fuck am i doing wrong? what the fuck is jim delany doing right?"
*$10mm less per school for the p12 vs the b0g is a shit deal, i aint sayin its not. -
Win or GTFO. 20 million gifted a year is enough to play championship football.
We got the stadium, we can add some waterfalls in the locker room if that makes a difference.
At some point everyone is going to have nice shit. The shittiest beat down car in 2050 will be amazing.
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Fuck off, so this is what it's come to...debating teevee network revenues
Doogles - do me a favor, don't go chasin waterfalls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoKufWbP_L4
Do us proud, cause I don't want no scrubs
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That was also my point. It was rhetorical.Tequilla said:
You realize you just proved my point?doogsinparadise said:
Why would you want to watch college baseball when you could in the mountains, on your boat, chilling on the beach, etc.Tequilla said:The bottom line is that most of the schools in the Big 10 and SEC are totally invested in everything about their schools ... in the PAC we have so many other interests that we're not invested in sitting down on Saturday afternoon and planning our time around the baseball team.
Think about it this way ... LSU fills up 10k per game for baseball. PAC schools? Not so much. That's one of the biggest differences.
Of course, the other primary difference is that those outside of the West Coast could care less about the PAC for the most part ... whereas people from around the country have ties to the Big 10 and SEC. -
That's creeping me out.SpoonieLuv said:
Mine movesPurpleThrobber said:
WTF?!? I mean WTF!!!!SpoonieLuv said:
I drop an Ashley Adamson reference and it gets one upvote and one WTF!.
Somebody else drops pics of Larry Fucking Scott and they get two Awesomes.
That's just wrong. -
I think the biggest takeaway from this topic is that Larry Scott is like Emmert.
When the economy collapsed in 2008, Emmert did nothing special to protect the UW from the disaster. We were sold a bag of shit by the media - including doogman- that Emmert was exceptional. That turned out not to be true because any fuckstick from More_cock to S14aFS could have done the same shit Emmert did in 2008.
Same with Backhand Larry. The cocksmoker didn't sign any kind of deal outside of Tom fucking Hansen that anyone of us fucksticks could negotiate.
Emmert and Larry Scott are Doog legends that are on a higher mantle than Sark. Except for Kim of course.
His whole life revolves around sucking off Sark and gaping his asshole for Emmert. -
all I know is I haven't seen a Pac12 game in the 3 years it's been in existence...It appears that any Pac12 game worth watching is on ESPN or one of the Fox channels and the tier 3 games that uber-AD Woodtard has added to the schedule are the ones on Pac12.
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I have DirecTV and I'm not switching to Dish or Comcast just to get get the PAC12 Network. Even if Direct and PAC12 come to an agreement, I probably won't pay to get it to see 1 or 2 games a year when I can head to sports bar to catch those 1 or 2 games a year.Meek said:all I know is I haven't seen a Pac12 game in the 3 years it's been in existence...It appears that any Pac12 game worth watching is on ESPN or one of the Fox channels and the tier 3 games that uber-AD Woodtard has added to the schedule are the ones on Pac12.
MostMore than 81% of the games on PAC12 are dreckfests anyway.
