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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,223
    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    If we are talking about greatest coaches can we refrain from including baseball "managers" who really don't do shit and have the least influence on outcomes compared to other sports.

    Disagree ...

    A good to great manager not only has a strong influence over the pitching aspect of the game, but also in terms of putting his players in the best possible position to be successful.

    Further, baseball is an everyday sport for over 6 months where performance matters literally every single day. Having the pulse of your roster and knowing when to give guys a day off here and there as well as knowing when to go to the whip and when to just stay the course is a huge factor when considering a good or bad manager.
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  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Ya Weedon, flat out embarrassing.
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,394 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2015
    SteveInShelton said:

    Mike Holmgren had two first round draft picks one year for Cleveland and took Trent Richardson and Bradon Weedon, nuff said.

    Koren Robinson, Jerramy Stevens, Lamar King, Chris McIntosh, Marcus Tubbs. A bunch of bad 2nd and 3rd round picks too. He did draft Hutchinson, Alexander, and Trufant, but there was a reason he was fired as GM.

    99-04 are Holmgren's drafts. They are pretty bad. Ruskell was even worse.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Seahawks_draft_history
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  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    edited February 2015
    RoadDawg55 said:

    I hate Holmgren. He was an overrated coach who rode Favre and the worst division in the NFL to success. Green Bay in the mid 90's were like the Seahawks now. Ron Wolf the gm is going into the Hall of Fame for a reason. Any coach would have won there. Holmgren was a total dipshit when he ran the personnel side in Seattle and Cleveland.

    Mike wouldn't have won that superbowl without 92 Reggie White either. Don't beleive Mike made it to Reggie's funeral. Class. Not even a Go Pack, Go!
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    RoadDawg55 said:

    SteveInShelton said:

    Mike Holmgren had two first round draft picks one year for Cleveland and took Trent Richardson and Bradon Weedon, nuff said.

    Koren Robinson, Jerramy Stevens, Lamar King, Chris McIntosh, Marcus Tubbs. A bunch of bad 2nd and 3rd round picks too. He did draft Hutchinson, Alexander, and Trufant, but there was a reason he was fired as GM.

    99-04 are Holmgren's drafts. They are pretty bad. Ruskell was even worse.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Seahawks_draft_history
    I don't follow the Seahawks like I do My Huskies, My Bruins, and My LSU Tigers ...

    However, I do recall there were a bunch of 12's who were pissed Holmgren didn't get the full control job here ... Seahawks went with Carroll and Schneider ... I think it worked out ok.
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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    edited February 2015
    I turned to my wife and said we are lucky to have Carroll coaching here...



    Seriously.
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