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How the PAC12 Recruiting Breaks Down

CokeGreaterThanPepsi
CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)
Looks like almost all the classes are close to done now, here is how they break down in tiers:

USC
UCLA



ASU
Oregon
UW
Stanford

CAL
Arizona
WSU

Utah


Oregon State


Colorado
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited February 2015
    Disagree

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    To be honest, I don't know enough about the needs of other teams to know how well they recruited and whatnot.

    But I would probably rank:

    USC

    UCLA


    Oregon (if Adams transfers to UO we would be right up with UCLA)
    ASU

    Washington
    Stanford


    Utah
    Arizona

    Cal



    Wazzu







    Oregon State
    Colorado
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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Insightful.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Cal is still too damn high
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  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    RaceBannon said:

    Ha ha u dumb is 6. Petersen can't get out of state guys. Ur going to loose to oregon again and probly Cougars. Ur 5-6 at best next season

    He can't and 7-4.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    Mosster47 said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Ha ha u dumb is 6. Petersen can't get out of state guys. Ur going to loose to oregon again and probly Cougars. Ur 5-6 at best next season

    He can't and 7-4.
    12 games

    Fell right into the trap
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  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,340
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Looks like almost all the classes are close to done now, here is how they break down in tiers:

    USC


    UCLA



    ASU

    Oregon
    UW
    Stanford


    CAL
    Arizona
    WSU

    Utah

    Oregon State

    Colorado

    Fixed. The difference between ASU and 0regon is about the same as the distance between WSU & Utah; Utah & OSU; and OSU and Colorado.

    I actually hope the next three classes for U0 and UW are this close in ranking so we can actually see who is the better coach. Coach Chiclets or Slingblade?



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  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
    Just Vernon Adams would move Oregon up to UCLA?





    What color is the sky in your world duck?
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    PurpleReign said:

    Just Vernon Adams would move Oregon up to UCLA?





    What color is the sky in your world duck?

    Yup. Answers all our needs, and gives us a legitimate shot at a conference title. Vernon Adams has played and won at the Pac-10 level before - something no prep QB can say. Star ratings are mostly bullshit, so how many bullshit stars is a guy like VA worth? Sure, the preps will be in the system for three or four years... and generally play at a high level for one or two. We have a great prep QB in the class, so that box is checked.

    Oregon also got three of the top 6 all-purpose backs in the country. Used to call those guys "athletes," but whatever.

    Ducks also signed some great prospects on the lines. The JUCO guys I think will be immediate difference makers at LB, especially Moi.

    This is also a typical Oregon top 15-20 class that somehow wins games like a top 5 class. Nothing's changed in that respect, at all.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited February 2015
    One reason why Oregon should be rated ahead of ASU - Oregon signed 22 players, ASU signed 21 players including a white RB from Texas. I'm sure @Dennis_DeYoung understands where I'm coming from
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  • PurpleReign
    PurpleReign Member Posts: 5,479
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  • Thump
    Thump Member Posts: 793
    AZDuck said:


    This is also a typical Oregon top 15-20 class that somehow wins games against many teamslike a top 5 class but always loses the big game to the elite teams. Nothing's changed in that respect, at all.

    FIFY
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  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    I cant believe some are in here defending or propping up their recruiting. We are talking about 16 and 17 year old boys right now. Who fucking cares? How many of these children wont play a down of football or set foot on a college campus when all is said and done? Leave this shit to creeps like fatters and griswold. This shit is embarrassing
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  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    We feeled tons ov needs by signing a 4* samoan he wil mak a diferance rite away guys trust me my fingers is on teh pulse of these 15 year olds boys are class > ur class

    DIAFF
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    AZDuck said:

    Disagree

    image

    To be honest, I don't know enough about the needs of other teams to know how well they recruited and whatnot.

    But I would probably rank:

    USC

    UCLA


    Oregon (if Adams transfers to UO we would be right up with UCLA)
    ASU

    Washington
    Stanford


    Utah
    Arizona

    Cal



    Wazzu







    Oregon State
    Colorado


    You really are stupid, aren't you? I know you like having your little Basnight-esque conversations with yourself over on the Duck Halfbrains board but you really don't belong here. Please go back to educk/
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    edited February 2015
    AZDuck said:

    Disagree

    image

    To be honest, I don't know enough about the needs of other teams to know how well they recruited and whatnot.

    But I would probably rank:

    USC

    UCLA


    Oregon (if Adams transfers to UO we would be right up with UCLA)
    ASU

    Washington
    Stanford


    Utah
    Arizona

    Cal



    Wazzu







    Oregon State
    Colorado

    Vernon Adams has already been addressed here. I'll just say it's cute how you listed the 247sports ranking which has UW 6th, and not the scout.com ranking which has UW 5th.

    Face it, usc and ucla were the top tier, and it's splitting hairs among the next 4.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Passion said:

    AZDuck said:

    Disagree

    image

    To be honest, I don't know enough about the needs of other teams to know how well they recruited and whatnot.

    But I would probably rank:

    USC

    UCLA


    Oregon (if Adams transfers to UO we would be right up with UCLA)
    ASU

    Washington
    Stanford


    Utah
    Arizona

    Cal



    Wazzu







    Oregon State
    Colorado

    Vernon Adams has already been addresses here. I'll just say it's cute how you listed the 247sports ranking which has UW 6th, and not the scout.com ranking which has UW 5th.

    Face it, usc and ucla were the top tier, and it's splitting hairs among the next 4.
    ESPN has UW 6th as well.

    I have no idea who ends up more accurate between 24-7 and Scout. I have trouble taking a site called 24-7 seriously, but then I have trouble taking anyone who stalks teenage bois for a living seriously. I do think ranking by average stars is better than ranking by total stars.
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  • Passion
    Passion Member Posts: 4,622
    dnc said:

    Passion said:

    AZDuck said:

    Disagree

    image

    To be honest, I don't know enough about the needs of other teams to know how well they recruited and whatnot.

    But I would probably rank:

    USC

    UCLA


    Oregon (if Adams transfers to UO we would be right up with UCLA)
    ASU

    Washington
    Stanford


    Utah
    Arizona

    Cal



    Wazzu







    Oregon State
    Colorado

    Vernon Adams has already been addresses here. I'll just say it's cute how you listed the 247sports ranking which has UW 6th, and not the scout.com ranking which has UW 5th.

    Face it, usc and ucla were the top tier, and it's splitting hairs among the next 4.
    ESPN has UW 6th as well.

    I have no idea who ends up more accurate between 24-7 and Scout. I have trouble taking a site called 24-7 seriously, but then I have trouble taking anyone who stalks teenage bois for a living seriously. I do think ranking by average stars is better than ranking by total stars.
    Whatever, the point is that after sc and ucla, it's all close among the next 4 schools. Vernon fucking Adams doesn't propel the trash into the top tier.
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Passion is being a doog, as usual.

    Yes, getting a guy with Russell Wilson-type possibility doesn't mean anything for this recruiting cycle, especially since Oregon's REAL 2d string QB transferred out at the end of the 2012 season because Mariota decided to stay an additional year. Jeff Lockie is not a Pac-12 caliber QB, Vernon Adams is. The remainder of our offensive backfield is all Pac-12 quality, and we are probably adding a guy that can effectively distribute and move the ball, which we don't currently have because our 3rd string guys are too young/inexperienced/injured. As I've said proven college QB >>>>> 5* prep QB all day long.

    Do you actually believe the stupid shit you type?

    I use 247 ratings because they are the best of a bad bunch - they make some effort to rationalize their ratings across different rating systems and come up with a composite. I have no desire (nor do I really care)to downrate UW any more than I have a desire to downrate USC or UCLA. Oregon has finished in the Top 5-10 since 2009 with classes rated in the 15-20 range - this class is pretty similar to those. We have a couple of real difference makers on the lines and probably three of the top ATHs in the country, so I wouldn't call UO's class "trash" and your comment to that effect is FS.

    Using the 247 composite, there's 3 points' difference (star avg) between UCLA and UO and 3 points' difference between UO and UW. If that's a statistically significant difference (I have no idea and am not going to run the numbers to find out) then there's some daylight between UO's and UW's classes, and UW doesn't have a Vernon Adams walking through the door to answer your very real concerns at the QB position.

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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    This whole thread after the OP needs to DIAFF
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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    RoadDawg55 said:

    This whole thread after the OP needs to DIAFF

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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    RoadDawg55 said:

    This whole thread after the OP needs to DIAFF

    We aren't lucky AZDuck posts here, at all.
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  • beelzebub
    beelzebub Member Posts: 361
    Take the Oregon crap to Duck Board this site is reserved for ragging on Husky mountain west recruiting class
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  • beelzebub
    beelzebub Member Posts: 361
    RaceBannon said:

    beelzebub said:

    Take the Oregon crap to Duck Board this site is reserved for ragging on Husky mountain west recruiting class

    U slipped out of ur character
    Aww someone has a crush
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    beelzebub said:

    RaceBannon said:

    beelzebub said:

    Take the Oregon crap to Duck Board this site is reserved for ragging on Husky mountain west recruiting class

    U slipped out of ur character
    Aww someone has a crush
    You do on Sark apparently.
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