Lincoln's Dehonta Hayes: A Gem being Overlooked?
Lincoln's Dehonta Hayes: A Gem being Overlooked?
The outstanding play of Dehonta Hayes warrants more attention from the Pac-12, write James Christianson from Under the Radar.
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Kind of player that you'd like to see potentially take a preferred walk-on offer from the UW with the opportunity to earn a full scholarship if warranted on the field.
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WSU's "glory days" were filled with kids like this guy. He's definitely capable.
If he's an A student, we should definitely try to get him to walk on. -
Does he have any offers from FCS school like Eastern or Montana?
5'11" 190 with 4.4 speed combined with production and no offers from anyone? James, are those accurate or are they self reported? -
RoadDawg55: His height and weight came from MaxPrep's roster. The 4.4 speed was reported to me by a coach when I could not find it online. And, of course, I observed it when seeing him run by other players on the field with known 4.5 speed (like Gaskin). To be clear, I was not saying he has no offers. I am just surprised there are none from Pac 12 schools (that I have heard). The latest report on offers that I can find was a July 11, 2014 article on NEI quoting Hayes as saying he has offers from Navy, Eastern WA, Montana St., Montana, Portland ST., UTEP & UC Davis. Four months later, he self-reported that he had 7 offers and that he would wait until signing day to commit. In November, he stated that he had been talking to Arizona, Cal, UW and WSU, but no offers. He was a 2014 pre-season, all-state pick (TNT) and was the NW College Showcase DB MVP in 2013 when Austin Joyner was there. So, it seems there was great attention surrounding Hayes early in high school. But, that attention seemed to fade this year, for some unapparent reason.
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Tequila long. Read. Good stuff. Would love to see him become a preferred walk on at UW.
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I see that Wyoming and Nevada have been added to the list...making a total of 4 FBS and 5 FCS college offers.RoadDawg55 said:Does he have any offers from FCS school like Eastern or Montana?
5'11" 190 with 4.4 speed combined with production and no offers from anyone? James, are those accurate or are they self reported? -
We need another WR/S. Any chance we are interested but keeping it quiet?
This article doesn't square with his offers. So either there is something else going on, he has some obvious limitation (size?), or he just wasn't really that dominant. -
Prognosticators generally like to be right. It's hard to believe he would be preseason all-state and then not get awarded after such a dominant season. Even if there were off the field issues that were hurting his recruitment, the lists and accolades aren't going to reflect them.FremontTroll said:We need another WR/S. Any chance we are interested but keeping it quiet?
This article doesn't square with his offers. So either there is something else going on, he has some obvious limitation (size?), or he just wasn't really that dominant.
Not saying he's not a player or an idiot, so don't twist.
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Walk on at best.
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Hips?
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I just wanted to thank you for this article my family and I loved every part of it .. Hitting this situation right on the head, for most of you wondering im just as confused as the rest of you . I have perfect grades (3.7 accum) , I have the speed , athleticism, I have just been overlooked . But I will shine once again in college
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Not a fan of this thread. Is this a place for aspiring HS athletes to get exposure or TBS companies who do videos for those athletes? I sure hope not.
FWIW, I wish nothing but the best for Dehonta. -
Watch at 7:24 of the highlights of the game (2nd video). A player on Lincoln drops a pick and the ref calls it a fumble that Lincoln returns for a score. I wish Lincoln would have won the game, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.
I wish the best for Dehonta too. I hope you get the Pac 12 offer, but you have some pretty good offers to be grateful for. The NFL is full of players that went to smaller schools. -
Kid's got wheels, and speed kills.
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Can't really tell from the angle, but that looked like a bubble screen play so maybe it was one of those borderline he threw it backwards calls. Either way, that's why you stick with it and maybe full the refs on the 50-50 call.RoadDawg55 said:Watch at 7:24 of the highlights of the game (2nd video). A player on Lincoln drops a pick and the ref calls it a fumble that Lincoln returns for a score. I wish Lincoln would have won the game, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.
I wish the best for Dehonta too. I hope you get the Pac 12 offer, but you have some pretty good offers to be grateful for. The NFL is full of players that went to smaller schools. -
The WR is moving upfield so I think it was still a bad call, but I wasn't paying attention to it possibly being a lateral.Doogles said:
Can't really tell from the angle, but that looked like a bubble screen play so maybe it was one of those borderline he threw it backwards calls. Either way, that's why you stick with it and maybe full the refs on the 50-50 call.RoadDawg55 said:Watch at 7:24 of the highlights of the game (2nd video). A player on Lincoln drops a pick and the ref calls it a fumble that Lincoln returns for a score. I wish Lincoln would have won the game, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.
I wish the best for Dehonta too. I hope you get the Pac 12 offer, but you have some pretty good offers to be grateful for. The NFL is full of players that went to smaller schools. -
The bottom line here is that if that POS Ben-Hurr is worth a scholly, Dehonta is. Also, Dehonta's got to learn to wrap up. He kill-shots everyone, which is okay until it's not.
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*back in the days when WSU would use their taxpayer subsidy on in-state players?Dennis_DeYoung said:WSU's "glory days" were filled with kids like this guy. He's definitely capable.
If he's an A student, we should definitely try to get him to walk on. -
I think this article is appropriate because:HuskyInAZ said:Not a fan of this thread. Is this a place for aspiring HS athletes to get exposure or TBS companies who do videos for those athletes? I sure hope not.
FWIW, I wish nothing but the best for Dehonta.
(1) We are approaching signing day.
(2) This is a UW-oriented website and a good portion of the content/forums on HardcoreHusky is devoted to recruiting, including "the ones that got away".
(3) Dehonta is a local 3-star athlete who is in UW's back yard.
(4) It seems that Dehonta is a Pac12 caliber player.
(5) When Dehonta has been on the field with 4-star UW commits, he was the best player on the field, in do-or-die playoff games (you could regularly hear Jon Kitna in post-game talks stating that Dehonta carried the team or put the team on his back, and we know that Lincoln was loaded).
Only time will tell, for sure, how well Dehonta pans out in college (as is the case with any 5-star recruit or a 1-star recruit). But, it seems to be the appropriate time and place to write up an article like this in a forum like this. -
Pretty simple really Chrissysen, you don't know what the f*** you're looking for
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LOL. If you've been lurking here Christianson, you'll understand this is pretty much a compliment.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Pretty simple really Chrissysen, you don't know what the f*** you're looking for
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Not a compliment. Been following recruiting for 27 years, every year people bring up local players that should be offered. When a uw coach is at every game watching Lincoln, and the kid doesnt get offered, its pretty clear the player isnt good enough for UW's standards. Not a slam, just reality. Sure there's a marcus trufant miss every once in awhile, but not often.
I dont count Sark's years because there were several, but Peter doesnt strike me as a coach to let and under recruited kid escape the state. Could Leiato be that guy? No because he wasnt underrecruited. -
Now little puppy, play nice with jimmy.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Pretty simple really Chrissysen, you don't know what the f*** you're looking for
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Your point is well-taken. I don't pretend to know who was at the games, watching and looking for whom. And I have talked to D1 coaches while on the sideline. They were mostly there for the kids with the biggest headlines. If headlines were a predictor of college success, then Paul Arnold would've had four 1,000 rushing seasons and Mario Bailey would have been a decent role-playing 3rd down receiver.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Not a compliment. Been following recruiting for 27 years, every year people bring up local players that should be offered. When a uw coach is at every game watching Lincoln, and the kid doesnt get offered, its pretty clear the player isnt good enough for UW's standards. Not a slam, just reality. Sure there's a marcus trufant miss every once in awhile, but not often.
I dont count Sark's years because there were several, but Peter doesnt strike me as a coach to let and under recruited kid escape the state. Could Leiato be that guy? No because he wasnt underrecruited.
Again, I go back to my main point. If there's Pac12 commits on the field and yet the best player on the field is Dehonta, then that causes me to think that he can probably hang with them at the next level. Of course some players' high school games don't translate to the next level. I understand that, too. Or a player might flourish in a high school system that is just that...a high school system. It's just that in this case I saw Dehonta excel at all facets of the game against multiple D1 players. I don't know how you can flippantly dismiss that. But, if any of us here could predict what players were going to be D1 stars with 100% accuracy, then we could command any salary we wanted from any D1 team in the country.
I'm not sure what the posters in here mean by what I'm "looking for". I don't "look for" anything. I just cover games and shoot them like KOMO or KING 5's cameramen do. And I'm just writing about what I have observed first hand, and offering my opinion. Nothing more.
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Protip: don't waste your time trying to explain things to puppy.JamesChristianson said:
Your point is well-taken. I don't pretend to know who was at the games, watching and looking for whom. And I have talked to D1 coaches while on the sideline. They were mostly there for the kids with the biggest headlines. If headlines were a predictor of college success, then Paul Arnold would've had four 1,000 rushing seasons and Mario Bailey would have been a decent role-playing 3rd down receiver.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Not a compliment. Been following recruiting for 27 years, every year people bring up local players that should be offered. When a uw coach is at every game watching Lincoln, and the kid doesnt get offered, its pretty clear the player isnt good enough for UW's standards. Not a slam, just reality. Sure there's a marcus trufant miss every once in awhile, but not often.
I dont count Sark's years because there were several, but Peter doesnt strike me as a coach to let and under recruited kid escape the state. Could Leiato be that guy? No because he wasnt underrecruited.
Again, I go back to my main point. If there's Pac12 commits on the field and yet the best player on the field is Dehonta, then that causes me to think that he can probably hang with them at the next level. Of course some players' high school games don't translate to the next level. I understand that, too. Or a player might flourish in a high school system that is just that...a high school system. It's just that in this case I saw Dehonta excel at all facets of the game against multiple D1 players. I don't know how you can flippantly dismiss that. But, if any of us here could predict what players were going to be D1 stars with 100% accuracy, then we could command any salary we wanted from any D1 team in the country.
I'm not sure what the posters in here mean by what I'm "looking for". I don't "look for" anything. I just cover games and shoot them like KOMO or KING 5's cameramen do. And I'm just writing about what I have observed first hand, and offering my opinion. Nothing more.
He's basically a grown man with a retard brain. -
Plss you should stay off the recruiting board. Let the semi-sane, socially functional have this as a respite from your village idiot act.
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I went to Lincoln's signing assembly today and asked Marcus Johnson about that play. He said it looked to him like it was a straight pass, not forward or back, which, of course makes it a free ball.RoadDawg55 said:Watch at 7:24 of the highlights of the game (2nd video). A player on Lincoln drops a pick and the ref calls it a fumble that Lincoln returns for a score. I wish Lincoln would have won the game, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.
I wish the best for Dehonta too. I hope you get the Pac 12 offer, but you have some pretty good offers to be grateful for. The NFL is full of players that went to smaller schools. -
Yeah, after Doogles pointed it out to me I looked and saw it was close.JamesChristianson said:
I went to Lincoln's signing assembly today and asked Marcus Johnson about that play. He said it looked to him like it was a straight pass, not forward or back, which, of course makes it a free ball.RoadDawg55 said:Watch at 7:24 of the highlights of the game (2nd video). A player on Lincoln drops a pick and the ref calls it a fumble that Lincoln returns for a score. I wish Lincoln would have won the game, but that was probably the worst call I have ever seen.
I wish the best for Dehonta too. I hope you get the Pac 12 offer, but you have some pretty good offers to be grateful for. The NFL is full of players that went to smaller schools. -
Protip: don't waste your time trying to explain things to puppy.
He's basically a grown man with a retard brain.
Thanks for the tip. It is noteworthy to me that he made a definitive statement and said a UW coach "was at every game watching Lincoln". I'm not sure what his source was for that definitive statement, but multiple reliable sources tell me that UW personnel was only at one game late in the season, and that they offered Dehonta a PWO, and that they recently admitted that they made a mistake by letting him get away. That's why I give more credence to the experts IN the recruiting process, rather than folks who are ostensibly self-proclaimed experts who have merely "been following recruiting" like puppy has. I prefer to make public comment only on that which there's evidence for (reliable sources I consider actual experts on the matter) or my own eye witnessed account of things, which I will still always qualify as merely my opinion based upon what I have seen with my own eyes, and just an opinion. -
Thanks for the tip. It is noteworthy to me that he made a definitive statement and said a UW coach "was at every game watching Lincoln". I'm not sure what his source was for that definitive statement, but multiple reliable sources tell me that UW personnel was only at one game late in the season, and that they offered Dehonta a PWO, and that they recently admitted that they made a mistake by letting him get away. That's why I give more credence to the experts IN the recruiting process, rather than folks who are ostensibly self-proclaimed experts who have merely "been following recruiting" like puppy has. I prefer to make public comment only on that which there's evidence for (reliable sources I consider actual experts on the matter) or my own eye witnessed account of things, which I will still always qualify as merely my opinion based upon what I have seen with my own eyes, and just an opinion.JamesChristianson said:Protip: don't waste your time trying to explain things to puppy.
He's basically a grown man with a retard brain.
The voices in his head are puppy's sources.
