Re-Ranking the 2009 and 2010 Recruitng Classes and More
Re-Ranking the 2009 and 2010 Recruitng Classes and More
CokeGreaterThanPepsi is back with survey results regarding recent Washington recruiting classes.
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This was utterly depressing. My basic conclusion is that Sark did a really crappy job of player development, and he also really didn't give a crap about guys staying on the roster and sticking it out with players. He loved his shiny new toys each year. There is no reason those class averages should be that low, just lazy crap.
When two classes that were seniors the past 2 seasons BOTH average under a 2 you really understand quickly why we suck.
My hope is that 3 years from now those numbers look a LOT different for classes that Petersen is bringing in. -
A Pie Chart? DaFuq?
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But how was Sark a bad coach ...?
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Would love to see BSU or Oregon results of the same type of research case.
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In all honesty, much gratitude to cokegreaterthanpepsi. All of us losers get boners off the idea of this shit. To have it actualized is quality reason to be here, so cheers!
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2009 was the amazing free pub we got for letting Sark hang around SC for an extra month for a bowl game instead of putting him to work on recruiting. Who was the AD that did that again?
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#CommittedMeek said:2009 was the amazing free pub we got for letting Sark hang around SC for an extra month for a bowl game instead of putting him to work on recruiting. Who was the AD that did that again?
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Thanks!Doogles said:In all honesty, much gratitude to cokegreaterthanpepsi. All of us losers get boners off the idea of this shit. To have it actualized is quality reason to be here, so cheers!
Side note, if anyone wants some random stuff about recruiting rankings just let us know, might be able to help out. We've compiled all the pac12 classes for every school back to 2010 in our database, we have location, high school, stars, position, draft position, DNQ, left early, transfer, etc. all in the database. We went all the way back to 2003 for UW.
Just axe myself or @MrsPetersen and we'll see if we can find something. -
What was ironic was when Sark got hired by USC he left town the same day.Meek said:2009 was the amazing free pub we got for letting Sark hang around SC for an extra month for a bowl game instead of putting him to work on recruiting. Who was the AD that did that again?
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Tell that to any Doog and they'll tell you about dead periods and that Sark couldn't recruit so it was no big deal.Meek said:2009 was the amazing free pub we got for letting Sark hang around SC for an extra month for a bowl game instead of putting him to work on recruiting. Who was the AD that did that again?
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Praise be PatHadenFSDerekJohnson said:
What was ironic was when Sark got hired by USC he left town the same day.Meek said:2009 was the amazing free pub we got for letting Sark hang around SC for an extra month for a bowl game instead of putting him to work on recruiting. Who was the AD that did that again?
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Crazy to think that this was the #10 ranked class in the country, looking at the highly ranked guys here is how they panned out.
Never qualified: Chris Young
Never played/transferred/medical retirement: Nick Montana, Erik Kohler (2 seasons of subpar production prior to retirement, clearly should have redshirted), Colin Porter
Low level contributor: Josh Shirley, Sione Potoae,
Starter/Solid Contributor: Sean Parker (above avg player), Micah Hatchie, Kevin Smith.
The best player from that class is Kikaha (3* #69 (el-oh-el) ranked DE. -
Just further proof that none of these teen boys stalkers know dick about scouting players.MrsPetersen said:Crazy to think that this was the #10 ranked class in the country, looking at the highly ranked guys here is how they panned out.
Never qualified: Chris Young
Never played/transferred/medical retirement: Nick Montana, Erik Kohler (2 seasons of subpar production prior to retirement, clearly should have redshirted), Colin Porter
Low level contributor: Josh Shirley, Sione Potoae,
Starter/Solid Contributor: Sean Parker (above avg player), Micah Hatchie, Kevin Smith.
The best player from that class is Kikaha (3* #69 (el-oh-el) ranked DE.
Sure, anyone can pick out a guy like Shaq...but when it comes to the Mason Fosters of the world, it's amazing people pay for dipshits like Ektard to tell them about how a high school player is going to pan out. -
The TBS club is in a perpetual circle jerk. They feed off of and reinforce their own lazy opinions. Guessing right on "five star" recruits is easier than properly evaluating the remaining 90-95 percent of kids playing high school football.CheersWestDawg said:
Just further proof that none of these teen boys stalkers know dick about scouting players.MrsPetersen said:Crazy to think that this was the #10 ranked class in the country, looking at the highly ranked guys here is how they panned out.
Never qualified: Chris Young
Never played/transferred/medical retirement: Nick Montana, Erik Kohler (2 seasons of subpar production prior to retirement, clearly should have redshirted), Colin Porter
Low level contributor: Josh Shirley, Sione Potoae,
Starter/Solid Contributor: Sean Parker (above avg player), Micah Hatchie, Kevin Smith.
The best player from that class is Kikaha (3* #69 (el-oh-el) ranked DE.
Sure, anyone can pick out a guy like Shaq...but when it comes to the Mason Fosters of the world, it's amazing people pay for dipshits like Ektard to tell them about how a high school player is going to pan out.
Successful coaching staffs do a much better job of this, but this too leads back to the circle jerk. An offer from a school like Alabama or LSU tends to elevate that PSA's ranking, for no other reason than the offer. This is among the reasons I don't follow recrooting too closely.
The best evaluation of a class comes later anyway, like our own @CokeGreaterThanPepsi TBSer just did for Sark's first two classes. No way in hell did that 2010 class live up to it's billing, and yes, for a number of reasons. But, this is an excellent indicator of the health of the program, which is all that really matters in the end. I'm guessing Peterman's classes will ALL look better (in retrospect) than ANY Sark put together ..... and that says it all. -
I was so depressed, I chugged a gallon of bleach after looking at your spreadsheets last night. After puking for 17 hours straight, I can say that I have survived, and lost 23lbs to boot. Thanks!
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For the record, I called Donald Butler being 5star worthy even though he was ranked a 2 back in the doogman days. I'm not here to beat my own chest, but when he trucked me playing against him in high school it was clearly obvious he was a man amongst boys.CheersWestDawg said:
Just further proof that none of these teen boys stalkers know dick about scouting players.MrsPetersen said:Crazy to think that this was the #10 ranked class in the country, looking at the highly ranked guys here is how they panned out.
Never qualified: Chris Young
Never played/transferred/medical retirement: Nick Montana, Erik Kohler (2 seasons of subpar production prior to retirement, clearly should have redshirted), Colin Porter
Low level contributor: Josh Shirley, Sione Potoae,
Starter/Solid Contributor: Sean Parker (above avg player), Micah Hatchie, Kevin Smith.
The best player from that class is Kikaha (3* #69 (el-oh-el) ranked DE.
Sure, anyone can pick out a guy like Shaq...but when it comes to the Mason Fosters of the world, it's amazing people pay for dipshits like Ektard to tell them about how a high school player is going to pan out.
There seem to be guys like Butler and Shelton that you know are going to be NFL players that for whatever reason are given a pass in the rankings. I think we can all agree the assumption is a 5 star is going to play in the NFL, so why do these guys slip through the cracks? Del Campo has a good tradition in Sac. How does a guy like Butler slip through the cracks when he clearly was a beast? -
Danny Shelton was only a 3 star, great ranking as always Ektard
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Minter wasnt brought in to contend at qb. He could kick and emergency qb, that was it dude Strange offer for sure though
