What Washington Needs to do to get back to the top
Now when I played I was a huge weight room guy so I feel that championships are won in the off season strength and condition program or at least that is the foundation of successful season. Nowadays it seems some strength coaches are to technical with so much information that they forget the core training methods that have proven to work over time.
ESPN classics showed the 1991 Rose Bowl a few days ago and was thinking that team makes the current Roster looks like like a group of Freshman. I remember Johnny Morton from USC a few years ago commented on the fact that I used a thigh pad to cover my bruised Bicep for protection during the game. Hey said guys on their team were like, "#48 arms are so big he has to us a thigh Pad to cover it". Also, I ran into guy that played at Washington in 1993 for East Carolina. He said they were intimated when NIP and and guys like Ernie Conwell came out with half cut Jersey's showing their guns and six pack. Did you see the Ohio State Players last night? It reminding me how we looked. They ran the ball down Oregon's throat because the were the stronger Team.
My point is this, We just need to get our edge back and it starts in the Weight room. Its were confidence is built. It think its important to have certain measurables and set personal goals. It's not the the be all and end all but when I set the school record at UW in the Squat at 750lb I felt no one could stop me. I benched 420 pounds in high school so I was ready play when I first got to Washington and it showed on the practice field.
It seems that some programs overemphasize fancy Machines and a plethora drills and de-emphasize core lifts and Free Weights because they feel you would get to bulky and loose agility. I think you train correctly you get yoked up, fast, agile and explosive. (and we had loose hips. lol) If you remember we were known for our speed and athleticism but almost our whole team benched over 400lbs. Mark Brunell could Power Clean 350 pounds. Nip could bench press well over 400 pounds. I could go on and on. I just don't think a team 25 years ago should not be more physically imposing that a Team today.
Now It takes time to build muscle mass so I can blame the current strength program but next year if their lineman come out looking look pillsbury doughboys then I would question what they are doing in their strength and condition program. Just my thoughts on a program I love and hope to see back at the top soon.
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So you're saying bench press is not overrated after all?
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Great post. We've been talking about this for year. Pencil armed linemen.
Tell the truth, did the old Husky teams have a little "help' in the weight room? It seems like the championship programs have that edge that the losers don't -
There is also a speed & aggressiveness factor that we're missing. Whenever an oregon player got the ball, a split second passed before an ohio state defender flashed onto the screen and hit him. That's the way it was at UW in the early 1990s. Our guys were always swarming around the ball, flying out of nowhere to make a sure tackle.
Now it seems like an opposing player catches the ball, and you're literally counting "one-mississippi...two-mississippi...three..." before some UW player finally comes into the picture to make a hit.
Physical stature, speed, aggressiveness are all absent. john timu? jeezus. -
The eye test... I was just talking about this as I was watching the 2001 Rose Bowl replay: That 2000 UW team most definitely passed the eye test as well. Those UW squads in the early, mid nineties were on another level. Now, not so much... I believe we've failed the eye test for about 14 or so years now.
I've read that our current S&C coach brought in a much greater emphasis on free weights than our former S&C coach. Here's a pretty good article on the topic, although it is from SEATimes_FS:
"Compared to other programs, Socha said he uses more free weights and “movement exercises” designed to increase players’ flexibility. Nutrition also is a top priority, with UW hiring a full-time dietitian, Kristen Gravani, in January."
http://seattletimes.com/html/huskyfootball/2023331535_uwfootball09xml.html -
So chocolate milk and 18 mph treadmills don't work?
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Nutrition is overrated.Joe Stephanson said:The eye test... I was just talking about this as I was watching the 2001 Rose Bowl replay: That 2000 UW team most definitely passed the eye test as well. Those UW squads in the early, mid nineties were on another level. Now, not so much... I believe we've failed the eye test for about 14 or so years now.
I've read that our current S&C coach brought in a much greater emphasis on free weights than our former S&C coach. Here's a pretty good article on the topic, although it is from SEATimes_FS:
"Compared to other programs, Socha said he uses more free weights and “movement exercises” designed to increase players’ flexibility. Nutrition also is a top priority, with UW hiring a full-time dietitian, Kristen Gravani, in January."
http://seattletimes.com/html/huskyfootball/2023331535_uwfootball09xml.html
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Have you or will you ever meet with Socha? I don't know what your relationship with the program is, but I'd be interested to hear your impressions after meeting with him and understanding his philosophy on S&C.DonaldJones said:There are a combination of things that obviously need to happen in order for the Huskies to get back to the top but I just one to touch on one thing I noticed while watching the bowl game vs OSU. As a scout the first thing you naturally do is the eyeball test. Looking at our guys compared to OSU there was a big difference in my opinion on the physical make up of the Players. OSU looked more physically imposing than our players.
Now when I played I was a huge weight room guy so I feel that championships are won in the off season strength and condition program or at least that is the foundation of successful season. Nowadays it seems some strength coaches are to technical with so much information that they forget the core training methods that have proven to work over time.
ESPN classics showed the 1991 Rose Bowl a few days ago and was thinking that team makes the current Roster looks like like a group of Freshman. I remember Johnny Morton from USC a few years ago commented on the fact that I used a thigh pad to cover my bruised Bicep for protection during the game. Hey said guys on their team were like, "#48 arms are so big he has to us a thigh Pad to cover it". Also, I ran into guy that played at Washington in 1993 for East Carolina. He said they were intimated when NIP and and guys like Ernie Conwell came out with half cut Jersey's showing their guns and six pack. Did you see the Ohio State Players last night? It reminding me how we looked. They ran the ball down Oregon's throat because the were the stronger Team.
My point is this, We just need to get our edge back and it starts in the Weight room. Its were confidence is built. It think its important to have certain measurables and set personal goals. It's not the the be all and end all but when I set the school record at UW in the Squat at 750lb I felt no one could stop me. I benched 420 pounds in high school so I was ready play when I first got to Washington and it showed on the practice field.
It seems that some programs overemphasize fancy Machines and a plethora drills and de-emphasize core lifts and Free Weights because they feel you would get to bulky and loose agility. I think you train correctly you get yoked up, fast, agile and explosive. (and we had loose hips. lol) If you remember we were known for our speed and athleticism but almost our whole team benched over 400lbs. Mark Brunell could Power Clean 350 pounds. Nip could bench press well over 400 pounds. I could go on and on. I just don't think a team 25 years ago should not be more physically imposing that a Team today.
Now It takes time to build muscle mass so I can blame the current strength program but next year if their lineman come out looking look pillsbury doughboys then I would question what they are doing in their strength and condition program. Just my thoughts on a program I love and hope to see back at the top soon.
I wrote quite a bit on Socha during the offseason since he's one of the most significant upgrades in the last decade at UW.
Edit: Here's the link: http://forum.hardcorehusky.com/discussion/10988/how-bad-was-s-c-under-ivan-tequila-long/p1 -
Donald hits on a number of great points ... and a lot of what occurs in the weight room is driven by having guys that are driven to be the best that they can be and maximize their talents. They are committed to not only their personal improvement and growth, but a commitment to their teammates, their coaches, their program, etc.
One of the biggest things that I've noticed in the last 10+ years of Husky Football is how little of a commitment that has been in place. I know that I love to call out Cyler Miles, but to me his actions in the offseason that led to his suspension spoke volumes. His commitment was to himself in those actions. It wasn't to the team. It wasn't to his coaches. It was a purely selfish move. And to think that that came from a QB. Ridiculous.
One of the traits that you are finding in spades under Petersen is more and more players that live, breathe, sleep the attributes that you tend to find in good teams. A desire to get better every single day whether that is in the weight room, the practice field, in the film room, etc. -
Yes, we know.Tequilla said:Donald hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJbQ0YLMZUM&feature=player_detailpage







