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Sounders FC Update

MelloDawg
MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
With the looming departure of Jeff Parke and questions at the midfield, the Sounders face some tough questions over the offseason. What say you all?
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club
    I'm already starting to regret this.
  • Ping
    Ping Member Posts: 15
    This is really gay.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    While I can take credit for the idea, I give all credit to DJ for the creation of this board.

    Sounders set to sign Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January, btw. Great acquisition...or greatest acquisition?
  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,161 Founders Club
    This is a classy forum. I'll take a half caf de-caf no whip with a twist of lemon.
  • Mooser42
    Mooser42 Member Posts: 763
    I can't believe the Council of Flooding approved this shit
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club
    Koopdog, you're a classy customer.
  • SweatpantsGeneral
    SweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,161 Founders Club
    Wait Derek I thought my $ go me part ownership. STAFF TRUE?!?!
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club
    Customer of the bistro, that is to say
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    Sounders rumored to be acquiring Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January. Potential replacement for Mauro Rosales? You decide.
  • Mooser42
    Mooser42 Member Posts: 763
    MelloDawg said:

    Sounders rumored to be acquiring Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January. Potential replacement for Mauro Rosales? You decide.

    Can he play offensive line? Who am I kidding... sark will just covert him to a running back.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 333
    MelloDawg said:

    Sounders rumored to be acquiring Honduran midfielder Wilmer Crisanto in January. Potential replacement for Mauro Rosales? You decide.

    As you doubtless know, his name popped up around Labor Day along with Icelandic player, and he was thought to be a good offseason signing. He looks to be a rising young talent.

    But the team needs to do much more to take the talent level to where it is needed for an MLS CUp run.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club
    Alright you two, get a room
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Alright you two, get a room

    Actually, they do have a room. Thankfully.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    DJ is right. The Bistro IS the room for all talk of the beautiful game.

    I remember the Icelandic guy, Gudjohnnsen, seemed promising at a reserve league match as did that Romanian Ogararu. Need more allocation $$$ though
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 333
    Mello

    Yes, seems so. But nobody signed, and the Sounders need to spend more to keep up with LA.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    Roth, Hannauer and others swear that money won't be a factor in terms of pursuing the MLS Cup, whatever that ends up meaning. As much as guys like Rosales have helped, this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    MelloDawg said:

    , this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.

    Too much teeth?
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 333
    MelloDawg said:

    Roth, Hannauer and others swear that money won't be a factor in terms of pursuing the MLS Cup, whatever that ends up meaning. As much as guys like Rosales have helped, this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.

    Agree about the young Central American players. They are fairly talented usually, and cheaper than their European counterparts or even most South American counterparts. If they have been in Central America, it is typically the minor leagues of the Hispanic futbol world. Getting a transfer to a better paying S. American club or to the US, is a good step for them, or even better for them, to a decent European club.

    But if money truly was not a factor, the Sounders would not be buying from here, but from the better clubs of S America or Europe. They get bargains and diamonds in the rough with their strategy, but it is financially driven.

    But the old NASL went bankrupt by diving too heavily into expensive European talent pools. As a young guy, I worked for a while with the old NASL Sounders. As you doubtless know, the Cosmos were the LA Galaxy of that era, with expensive guys like Pele, Beckenbauer, Chinaglia, Alberto, etc.
    That is clearly not a good economic model without much better stadium attendance and BIG TV contracts.

    So I wonder how the Galaxy do what they do? The economics of their team is something Seattle needs to understand. Can it be emulated?
  • tdawg
    tdawg Member Posts: 4
    God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    tdawg said:

    God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

    What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,500 Founders Club

    tdawg said:

    God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

    What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

    Speaking of which, TierbsHsotBoobs... What are you doing in here?
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    tdawg said:

    God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

    Welcome and thanks for reading. I'm in discussions with management to get a podcast on this site pertaining to the beautiful game. Your thoughts?
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    Global said:

    MelloDawg said:

    Roth, Hannauer and others swear that money won't be a factor in terms of pursuing the MLS Cup, whatever that ends up meaning. As much as guys like Rosales have helped, this philosophy of young Central-American players doesn't get the job done for me.

    Agree about the young Central American players. They are fairly talented usually, and cheaper than their European counterparts or even most South American counterparts. If they have been in Central America, it is typically the minor leagues of the Hispanic futbol world. Getting a transfer to a better paying S. American club or to the US, is a good step for them, or even better for them, to a decent European club.

    But if money truly was not a factor, the Sounders would not be buying from here, but from the better clubs of S America or Europe. They get bargains and diamonds in the rough with their strategy, but it is financially driven.

    But the old NASL went bankrupt by diving too heavily into expensive European talent pools. As a young guy, I worked for a while with the old NASL Sounders. As you doubtless know, the Cosmos were the LA Galaxy of that era, with expensive guys like Pele, Beckenbauer, Chinaglia, Alberto, etc.
    That is clearly not a good economic model without much better stadium attendance and BIG TV contracts.

    So I wonder how the Galaxy do what they do? The economics of their team is something Seattle needs to understand. Can it be emulated?
    And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    tdawg said:

    God, I hate soccer, really?? This is worthy of posting?

    What part of Mello's Bistro do you not understand?

    Speaking of which, TierbsHsotBoobs... What are you doing in here?
    Haters gonna hate.
  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 333
    MelloDawg said:


    And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

    Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

    But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

    LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

  • Birdflu
    Birdflu Member Posts: 3
    The MLS should stop signing aging player from Europe and focus on more younger player from Europe or America. Soccer is a better game when play by players between the age of 18-28.
  • MelloDawg
    MelloDawg Member Posts: 6,852
    Global said:

    MelloDawg said:


    And while I don't know a great deal about the NASL model, I do know there are a better series of economic checks and balances with the MLS to avoid such a collapse. I do think the Soudners have the roster to get it done in 2013, but the problem of finding an appropriate pairing with Montero still remains. Management loves the guy because of his high ceiling, but he's so streaky.

    Yes, with Montero, either we need to find a dependable counterpart to him, or trade him. But games also are won typically in midfield, and we need quality throughout. As you noted at the start, we lose a key defender, and need to shore up things there.

    But with LA able to field Robbie Keane and Landon Donovan at forward, and Beckham providing service, or the equivalent after Beckham is gone, Seattle has to find quality to match.

    LA gets $4-5million a year in sponsorship from Herbalife. Seattle needs to find the right kind of financial mix to keep up. The Sounders have been profitable, and need to step up the quality.

    But isn't there still a cap under which to operate, or does sponshorship money also count as extra allocation funds? The XboX partnership expires after 2013 and there's little chance it's renewed. The sense is that Sounders FC has an international presence these days and is known enough to garner interest from larger brands.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Birdflu said:

    The MLS should stop signing aging player from Europe and focus on more younger player from Europe or America. Soccer is a better game when play by players doused in gasoline and set ablaze.