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    SevenElevenSevenEleven Member Posts: 318
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Romar is not a good corch, but he's > Kent

    No. He's not
    Pac seasons: Romar 12+, Kent 13+
    Pac10/12 records: Romar 129-94, Kent 111-126
    NCAA records: Romar 8-7, Kent 6-6
    NCAA appearances: Romar 7 (6 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference), Kent 6 (5 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference)
    Pac championships: Romar 2, Kent 1
    Head to head wins: Romar 11, Kent 7
    Further NCAA tournament run: Romar S16, Kent E8
    Overall winning percentage: Romar in 592 career games .603, Kent in 593 career games .560
    Highest NCAA seeds defeated: Romar NM 3, Illinois 4 and Marquette 6; Kent Texas 6, UNLV 7, Wake Forest 7

    Romar best Kent in 6 out of 7 categories. Romar's not a great coach. He's easily better than Ernesto.
    Talent matters. Romar had more to work with.

    Kiffin went 10-2 in 2011. He wasn't a better coach than anyone with a worse record.
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    dhdawgdhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Romar is not a good corch, but he's > Kent

    No. He's not
    Pac seasons: Romar 12+, Kent 13+
    Pac10/12 records: Romar 129-94, Kent 111-126
    NCAA records: Romar 8-7, Kent 6-6
    NCAA appearances: Romar 7 (6 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference), Kent 6 (5 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference)
    Pac championships: Romar 2, Kent 1
    Head to head wins: Romar 11, Kent 7
    Further NCAA tournament run: Romar S16, Kent E8
    Overall winning percentage: Romar in 592 career games .603, Kent in 593 career games .560
    Highest NCAA seeds defeated: Romar NM 3, Illinois 4 and Marquette 6; Kent Texas 6, UNLV 7, Wake Forest 7

    Romar best Kent in 6 out of 7 categories. Romar's not a great coach. He's easily better than Ernesto.
    Talent matters. Romar had more to work with.

    Kiffin went 10-2 in 2011. He wasn't a better coach than anyone with a worse record.
    The talent that he recruited
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    edited January 2015

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Romar is not a good corch, but he's > Kent

    No. He's not
    Pac seasons: Romar 12+, Kent 13+
    Pac10/12 records: Romar 129-94, Kent 111-126
    NCAA records: Romar 8-7, Kent 6-6
    NCAA appearances: Romar 7 (6 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference), Kent 6 (5 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference)
    Pac championships: Romar 2, Kent 1
    Head to head wins: Romar 11, Kent 7
    Further NCAA tournament run: Romar S16, Kent E8
    Overall winning percentage: Romar in 592 career games .603, Kent in 593 career games .560
    Highest NCAA seeds defeated: Romar NM 3, Illinois 4 and Marquette 6; Kent Texas 6, UNLV 7, Wake Forest 7

    Romar best Kent in 6 out of 7 categories. Romar's not a great coach. He's easily better than Ernesto.
    Talent matters. Romar had more to work with.

    Kiffin went 10-2 in 2011. He wasn't a better coach than anyone with a worse record.
    Mike Riley > Pete Carroll
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    SevenElevenSevenEleven Member Posts: 318
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    edited January 2015
    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Romar is not a good corch, but he's > Kent

    No. He's not
    Pac seasons: Romar 12+, Kent 13+
    Pac10/12 records: Romar 129-94, Kent 111-126
    NCAA records: Romar 8-7, Kent 6-6
    NCAA appearances: Romar 7 (6 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference), Kent 6 (5 from the Pac, 1 from his 6 years in a smaller conference)
    Pac championships: Romar 2, Kent 1
    Head to head wins: Romar 11, Kent 7
    Further NCAA tournament run: Romar S16, Kent E8
    Overall winning percentage: Romar in 592 career games .603, Kent in 593 career games .560
    Highest NCAA seeds defeated: Romar NM 3, Illinois 4 and Marquette 6; Kent Texas 6, UNLV 7, Wake Forest 7

    Romar best Kent in 6 out of 7 categories. Romar's not a great coach. He's easily better than Ernesto.
    Talent matters. Romar had more to work with.

    Kiffin went 10-2 in 2011. He wasn't a better coach than anyone with a worse record.
    The talent that he recruited
    The talent that happened to be in Seattle at the time, you mean? Maybe he's a better recruiter than Ernie. Doesn't make him a better coach.

    It's FS to claim that Romar having relatively the same amount of tournament appearences in the same amount of time, with slightly less tournament success and a 4% better winning percentage makes him a better coach, considering the players the two had.

    Ernie had 4 nba first rounders. Jackson, Ridnour, Jones and Brooks. None who was more than a mediocre nba player.

    Romar had Robinson, Roy, Wroten, Hawes, Pondexter, Ross, Wilcox all go in the first round. Most were/are quality starters even an All star. He also had Jones, Brockman and IT all make some noise in the NBA. If he didn't have a better record he wouldn't just be a worse coach, but lightyears worse. He should blow away Kent's numbers, but instead his numbers are just a bit better and the one that he's worse at is what most people consider the most important. How deep you go in the dance.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Blackie said:

    WHEAT PANCAKES, BITCHES!

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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Romar isn't getting fired.

    HTH

    Many on this board mix fantasy with reality.
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    MakaDawgMakaDawg Member Posts: 492
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    If it weren't for the fucking recruiting class next year, I'd tell Romar he needs to think about "retiring."

    Romar's done some good things, but this team is fucked.

    Fucked.
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    HuskyInAZHuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
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    edited January 2015
    MakaDawg said:

    If it weren't for the fucking recruiting class next year, I'd tell Romar he needs to think about "retiring."

    Romar's done some good things, but this team is fucked.

    Fucked.

    I agree about the recruiting class. But based on what he has done with the talent he's recruited?????

    What about last years team? And the year before that? It has been an impressive 3 year run.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    MakaDawg said:

    If it weren't for the fucking recruiting class next year, I'd tell Romar he needs to think about "retiring."

    Romar's done some good things, but this team is fucked.

    Fucked.

    You deserve 0-30 or however many games the basketball team plays.

    That's the logic that got us #Owen12.
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    MakaDawgMakaDawg Member Posts: 492
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    MakaDawg said:

    If it weren't for the fucking recruiting class next year, I'd tell Romar he needs to think about "retiring."

    Romar's done some good things, but this team is fucked.

    Fucked.

    You deserve 0-30 or however many games the basketball team plays.

    That's the logic that got us #Owen12.
    No it isn't.

    But I also admittedly have a different frame of mind when it comes to the basketball team.
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    MakaDawgMakaDawg Member Posts: 492
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    HuskyInAZ said:

    MakaDawg said:

    If it weren't for the fucking recruiting class next year, I'd tell Romar he needs to think about "retiring."

    Romar's done some good things, but this team is fucked.

    Fucked.

    I agree about the recruiting class. But based on what he has done with the talent he's recruited?????

    What about last years team? And the year before that? It has been an impressive 3 year run.
    It's been a terrible 3 year run. I'd start trying to find a replacement. The "good things" I was referring to was the conference championships, sweet 16s, etc. But they weren't great things given the talent, I concur. Though I got to give him some credit for developing some of the talent.

    The last three years have been a fucking regression in epic fashion.
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    FreeChavezFreeChavez Member Posts: 3,223
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    It's kinda awful to say but 4 years ago if uw loses to wazzu id be so much more pissed. I expected today and fully have come to expect nobody actually cares about the program anyhow when we're worried about winning nice guy titles and not games. The fans were an embarrassment tonight when the players needed energy and support. Guess we will lace em up next year when people expect a bunch of frosh to carry us. Good luck on that
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    MuttzenMuttzen Member Posts: 1,015
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    how can we be expected to compete against a program built by ken sweatpants boner, he knows romars system
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    BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
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    I didn't watch one damn minute of the game, yet I feel like I didn't need to to know exactly how it went.
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    rodmansragerodmansrage Member Posts: 6,028
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    i literally give two shits about college basketball, let alone uw college "basketball."

    but here i am poasting in a cbb thread.

    fyfmfe.

    thanks.
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    BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,333
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Romar is not a good corch, but he's > Kent

    you sure about that?
    yes

    Compare any category you want: head to head record, conference record, overall record, ncaa tournament record, seeds beaten in the tournament, conference championships, etc.

    Kent has lasted one round longer in the tourney. Romar has literally everything else, and most of them aren't that close.

    Again, Romar's not a good coach. Kent's far worse. Regardless of what happens today.

    *irregardless
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