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My biggest complaint with Miles
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Miles lost me after the georgia state week. When he came out after the game and openly said he didn't think guys were going hard, taking it serious, etc and that he needed to do better as a qb I knew he had zero chance to be a success. A QB does not come out and say people were fucking around and I just looked the other way(or joined in more than likely). A QB is the douche on the team who acts 45 when he's 20. Some teammates may not like him, but they will when he gets them the ball, or wins all the time, or is prepared in crunch time.
When you spent your whole offseason suspended, and a few games in you're allowing your team to dictate the lazy attitude in practice you're not a leader at the QB position. Maybe he can be a TE, or something else on the field but the guy doesn't look like he prepares for shit during the week b/c he regularly has no idea what is going on from the defense. As if that isn't self evident from his lack of ability to throw more than 3 yrds down the field or find the 2nd and 3rd progression during a play -
Really good post, but I don't give them a pass. The offensive coaching sucked. It was horrible. Like Charles said on the recruiting board it goes hand in hand. It's part of their job to make Miles a confident QB. That is what practice is for. This is now twice, late in the season that the two minute drill was comically bad (also UCLA). Some of that, IMO even most of it, falls on the coaching.dnc said:
I give the coaching staff a bit of a pass with Miles' production because to get what they did out of a guy whose instincts are that bad is pretty impressive. What scares the shit out of me is why are they playing him in the first place?
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Good chit, RD.
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Bonaparte and Strausser have strong track records of developing players. The WR play actually improved throughout the year. Smith doesn't have the track record so he's more in the prove it mode and this year isn't helping his case. But he's not going to be door.ass.out at this point. Just not going to happen.RoadDawg55 said:
Really good post, but I don't give them a pass. The offensive coaching sucked. It was horrible. Like Charles said on the recruiting board it goes hand in hand. It's part of their job to make Miles a confident QB. That is what practice is for. This is now twice, late in the season that the two minute drill was comically bad (also UCLA). Some of that, IMO even most of it, falls on the coaching.dnc said:
I give the coaching staff a bit of a pass with Miles' production because to get what they did out of a guy whose instincts are that bad is pretty impressive. What scares the shit out of me is why are they playing him in the first place?
FMFYFE
You can lead a horse to water but that doesn't mean the horse will drink. You would absolutely have to think that the coaching staff would be teaching the 2 minute drill to be better than what we saw. Has it ever looked that poor at Boise under Petersen? Absolutely not. At some point, we need to stop making excuses for Miles needing to be coached up better and just come to grips with hte fact that he's just not good enough at the QB position.
Now, I do think that there are a few tweaks that could have been done to the offense to make it a little bit better. But none of those adjustments would have been a significant difference. -
Road nails it on the 2 minute front. Most inept hurry up I've ever seen. I was at the grand opening of the new Husky stadium against Boise and they were running tempo just as fast as us that day. One of the quickest play to play games i've ever seen.
Peterson knows how to do it, but clearly the message isn't being delivered properly or Miles doesn't have the ability to run it. I think I know which theory is more correct. -
Miles isn't very talented and he doesn't have the intangibles to make up for it. I've come to grips with that.Tequilla said:
Bonaparte and Strausser have strong track records of developing players. The WR play actually improved throughout the year. Smith doesn't have the track record so he's more in the prove it mode and this year isn't helping his case. But he's not going to be door.ass.out at this point. Just not going to happen.RoadDawg55 said:
Really good post, but I don't give them a pass. The offensive coaching sucked. It was horrible. Like Charles said on the recruiting board it goes hand in hand. It's part of their job to make Miles a confident QB. That is what practice is for. This is now twice, late in the season that the two minute drill was comically bad (also UCLA). Some of that, IMO even most of it, falls on the coaching.dnc said:
I give the coaching staff a bit of a pass with Miles' production because to get what they did out of a guy whose instincts are that bad is pretty impressive. What scares the shit out of me is why are they playing him in the first place?
FMFYFE
You can lead a horse to water but that doesn't mean the horse will drink. You would absolutely have to think that the coaching staff would be teaching the 2 minute drill to be better than what we saw. Has it ever looked that poor at Boise under Petersen? Absolutely not. At some point, we need to stop making excuses for Miles needing to be coached up better and just come to grips with hte fact that he's just not good enough at the QB position.
Now, I do think that there are a few tweaks that could have been done to the offense to make it a little bit better. But none of those adjustments would have been a significant difference.
That said, it's presumptuous to say coaching didn't play a large role. You have seen first hand a QB that sucked one year go to New York for the Heisman ceremony the next year. Boykin is still a somewhat limited QB, but coaching is very fucking important. -
There are two massive differences between Boykin and Miles:
1) Boykin has a very strong arm
2) Boykin clearly looks like he gives a shit and is a clear leader of the offense
I absolutely agree that there were some tweaks that could have been done to help the offense out just a little bit (for example, I would have preferred a more straight ahead running game), but in the end, the ceiling for an offense with Miles as the QB is average and to get to there you're going to need a lot of great pieces around him. -
Maybe I'm missing something, but did people expect Miles to suddenly become a good qb between Wazooo and the Cactus Bowl?
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Sounds like someone doesn't recognize the importance and effect of 15 extra practices.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Maybe I'm missing something, but did people expect Miles to suddenly become a good qb between Wazooo and the Cactus Bowl?
But no, I don't think anyone with any sense expected that. -
I didn't expect him to regress once again.H_D said:
Sounds like someone doesn't recognize the importance and effect of 15 extra practices.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Maybe I'm missing something, but did people expect Miles to suddenly become a good qb between Wazooo and the Cactus Bowl?
But no, I don't think anyone with any sense expected that.
