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Gladstone
Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,417
Gladstone
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wtf was I thinking.
it's called coverage and he had nowhere to go and had to start running for his fucking life. he was getting DP from the blind side and from right in front of him.
but keep on with your line of bullshit. it's giving me something to do.
and that ORGINAL poont, which I've not lost sight of, is that the turnovers were FS and somehow gifted to the quacks by Squinty and company. all of them were forced, even the last one by the WR, who never really had it because Buckner tipped the ball at the line and fucked up the pass and made the kid have to make an awkward grab.
that play was a combination of coverage and and D line pressure. it's really simple.
it's the kind of play that you cite as great D when a team you like executes it.
this is just fucking stupid to even be arguing about.
Winston should have gotten rid of the ball or run long before the D-Line got to him.
You were close though. Solid B- analysis.
I did get a chuckle out of the Buckner reference after Boobs highlighted your wandering "logic." Up vote for that!
Other than that... typical narcissistic blowhard rhetoric from the resident academis* superiority guy. :-*
other than that, I'm glad you took my advice and cleaned up your stinking twat.
and i still don't understand a fucking thing you say.
wander back further in the thread and try and keep up with the original point: that the turnovers were not just a matter of FSU "fucking up." if you do that, then the Buckner reference might not be that funny after all. well, it probably will because you're a fucking moron.
way to jump in a thread that's 12 pages long waiting for an opportunity to make a point.
why don't you man up and make your own arguments Sally?
Of course, if he had had a crystal ball and known he was going to fall down, which was at least in part caused by the fact the he had a D lineman cutting off is route, hurrying him up, and forcing him to plant, and then said crystal ball also told him that he was going to drop the ball on his way down in a fit of desperation, then sure, he would have been better off throwing it away. but of course, nobody knows that sequence of events ahead of time.
Here's the really important part: as it was, if he had stood in the pocket and thrown it out of the end zone or to the sidelines, you and I both would be here saying what a dumbfuck he was because it was 4th and 5. he was trying to make a play, and Oregon's defense made him pay.
that's all I was really trying to say.
I think that gets me up to an A-.
But Mr. Em thinks it's ironic.
Winston did neither, because his decision making sucks. This is not a new development.
Sven and Race have had a rough week. Take it easy on them.
So now a 29-1, Heisman winner, National Champion quarterback sucks at making decisions?
Puts your boots on boys, the shits starting to get deep.
Oregon dominated the lines ... Winston had time early to throw the ball, but he panicked because he had been hurried all game.
his guys were covered (at least the announcers said so during the game and we couldn't see) and the pocket began to collapse.
I agree about one thing boobs: he's probably better off stepping forward, though we can't really know that either. But the spin move -twirling around 180 - unless you are very agile - Mike Vick agile - almost always leads to fail. it takes too long unless you're crazy quick on your feet and Winston is not crazy quick. so that spin around gives the D lineman another full step and your protection is now trying to guess which way you want to go and it quickly becomes a cluster fuck unless you can beat everyone one on one, and he can't.
BUT, the Oregon D line was collapsing on the back side and he had a guy running right into his face. If we can't see that after watching the replay 20 times then even I can't fucking helps us.
Bottom line, 4th and 5, throwing it away means we're here today saying he was FS and taking off was advisable but it's not like trying to scramble in the pocket to buy your receivers more time is a FS new idea. He made that decision (which 99 times out of 100 is better than chucking it into the stands on 4th and 5 deep in the other guys territory) and it blew up on him. That it blew up on him was due in large measure to what Oregon's D was doing on that play.
Again, if that's Steve Emtman rushing him into a giant fuck up and Andy Mason winds up with the ball and goes six we're all here talking about the great D line effort. Seriously, Oregon's D stepped up when they had to yesterday. Almost every one of those turnovers were forced, if not every one.