What I'm hearing...
"Harbaugh's problems with SF started when he wanted an extension of his contract. he wanted to be paid like, or more than pete Carroll. harbaugh has a huge ego and that ego is filled by his pay check. he's looking to become the highest paid coach in the NFL. For that reason, no way does he go back to college football. It won't happen.
Kim Grinolds
Managing Partner"
Expect Bleenor to report it a couple hours after it hits the Twitterverse.
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I actually agree with Kim (FMFYFE). Harbaugh thinks Michigan's there for him whenever he wants it. He wants the massive contract and a ring before he goes there. Not sure he's getting the ring. He'll get a big money deal though.
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Harbaugh's a Bay Area guy who lives in Palo Alto and has little kids around kindergarten age...he'll give Oakland every chance to hire him.
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What does being a Bay Area guy have to do coach with coaching in LA?Meek said:Harbaugh's a Bay Area guy who lives in Palo Alto and has little kids around kindergarten age...he'll give Oakland every chance to hire him.
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Problem with him in the NFL is that there's no way that SF cuts him loose without compensation. The only teams willing to give him compensation are the absolute dreck that can't afford to give up the picks to get him.
I would imagine that he could get out of his contract to go to Michigan though.
Problem in the NFL, as Harbaugh has found out here, is that even with all of the success that he's had, you're an aging roster away from being door.ass.out. Not only does he want the ring in the NFL, but he wants more control of the player side of things (which honestly, I don't blame any coach for wanting to be closely dialed in with the GM on those matters given that ultimately the coach is the one with his ass on the line). He gets player control in the college game.
There's no question that I think Michigan's all in on trying to get either Harbaugh or Les Miles at this point. It could be ugly for them if they don't get either. -
Harbaugh is 50. He can recruit. He'll be the ESPN darling. He'll go to Michigan for $35/5 guaranteed w/rollover, with huge buyouts and set himself up for the NFL job he wants with an owner he wants, when he's 55-57 like Pete Carroll did.
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The Patriots are having a nice belly laugh with this post. NFL success is directly connected to a teams quarterback play. You can have the greatest skill players and line known to man, but except for the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, if you don't have a statistically elite quarterback, your team isn't winning shit.Tequilla said:Problem with him in the NFL is that there's no way that SF cuts him loose without compensation. The only teams willing to give him compensation are the absolute dreck that can't afford to give up the picks to get him.
I would imagine that he could get out of his contract to go to Michigan though.
Problem in the NFL, as Harbaugh has found out here, is that even with all of the success that he's had, you're an aging roster away from being door.ass.out. Not only does he want the ring in the NFL, but he wants more control of the player side of things (which honestly, I don't blame any coach for wanting to be closely dialed in with the GM on those matters given that ultimately the coach is the one with his ass on the line). He gets player control in the college game.
There's no question that I think Michigan's all in on trying to get either Harbaugh or Les Miles at this point. It could be ugly for them if they don't get either.
San Francisco has regressed because Kaepernick has gone from one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in the game to a punchline. -
Your success is greatly aided by having an elite QB. But at the same time, an elite QB without the right pieces around him turns into dog shit.
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An elite QB is average without good pieces around him, but he certaintly wouldn't be dog shit. What elite QB has taken that big of a regression because of talent alone?Tequilla said:Your success is greatly aided by having an elite QB. But at the same time, an elite QB without the right pieces around him turns into dog shit.
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Sorry for confusion ... the dog shit comment was in reference to the team.greenblood said:
An elite QB is average without good pieces around him, but he certaintly wouldn't be dog shit. What elite QB has taken that big of a regression because of talent alone?Tequilla said:Your success is greatly aided by having an elite QB. But at the same time, an elite QB without the right pieces around him turns into dog shit.
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Drew Brees is 5-8 this year, and Eli has two Super Bowls. There are always exceptions.greenblood said:
An elite QB is average without good pieces around him, but he certaintly wouldn't be dog shit. What elite QB has taken that big of a regression because of talent alone?Tequilla said:Your success is greatly aided by having an elite QB. But at the same time, an elite QB without the right pieces around him turns into dog shit.
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Brady just won his 12th straight division title with varying amounts of talent. Not enough to get to the Super Bowl anymore but Brady keeps them contending. Look at the AFC East qbs over the years he goes against
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They're getting to the Super Bowel this year.RaceBannon said:Brady just won his 12th straight division title with varying amounts of talent. Not enough to get to the Super Bowl anymore but Brady keeps them contending. Look at the AFC East qbs over the years he goes against
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Maybe. It's been since 2011 and haven't won since 04. But Brady has kept them relevant which is the pointdnc said:
They're getting to the Super Bowel this year.RaceBannon said:Brady just won his 12th straight division title with varying amounts of talent. Not enough to get to the Super Bowl anymore but Brady keeps them contending. Look at the AFC East qbs over the years he goes against
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Dammit Eli!RaceBannon said:
Maybe. It's been since 2011 and haven't won since 04. But Brady has kept them relevant which is the pointdnc said:
They're getting to the Super Bowel this year.RaceBannon said:Brady just won his 12th straight division title with varying amounts of talent. Not enough to get to the Super Bowl anymore but Brady keeps them contending. Look at the AFC East qbs over the years he goes against
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Fans may not see much difference between college and pro football, but coaches definitely do. Winning a Super Bowl is the absolute pinnacle of the profession. No NFL coach who sincerely thought he was good enough to win a Super Bowl has ever voluntarily left for a college job, except for maybe Ray Perkins. Saban, Petrino, Mora, etc realize they have limitations, so they decided to go to the minor leagues. Even Lou Holtz and Bud Wilkinson had to give the NFL a try, and failed.
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Agree to some extent, but I think the NFL and College are completely different animals suited to different traits. The recruiting aspect in college is something a lot of successful NFL coaches can't manage.RavennaDawg said:Fans may not see much difference between college and pro football, but coaches definitely do. Winning a Super Bowl is the absolute pinnacle of the profession. No NFL coach who sincerely thought he was good enough to win a Super Bowl has ever voluntarily left for a college job, except for maybe Ray Perkins. Saban, Petrino, Mora, etc realize they have limitations, so they decided to go to the minor leagues. Even Lou Holtz and Bud Wilkinson had to give the NFL a try, and failed.
As long as he has NFL suitors, Harbaugh is not going to Michigan.
The League is all about the Xs and Os because everyone is world class, while the college game is about the jimmies and Joes because the majority of the roster is there for class.
I think Petersen has the mental capacity to be a good NFL coach, but I think he relishes the opportunity to change human lives at such an influential point over barking at a QB making 4times as much as him.
But you are right, the NFL is a pure football, no bullshit league, and is definitely seen as the pinnacle of coaching accomplishment, and there is no way ultra-competitive Harbaugh goes to Michigan while his brother brings a super bowl ring to thanksgiving. -
After seeing Mike Riley to Lincoln and Gary Anderson to Corvallis, I believe it's a fool's errand to try to predict which coach goes where. If Vegas laid odds on the aforementioned in September, I'm guessing the dude that had either one of those $100 tickets would be set for life.
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Everything I'm hearing on twitter says Harbaugh is named Michigan coach this week. The fact Kim says otherwise and is so confident just seals the deal for me.
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Pisser. Rather see UMish stay shitty and 12s stay irritated.JaWarrenJaHooker said:
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I like it. I like Michigan and I like Harbaugh. I like the BIG-57 strong and I think Harbaugh helps with that.
Plus he'll bludgeon the shit out of everyone. -
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I always consult Yoda first when looking for football news.JaWarrenJaHooker said:
Jabba the Hut? No, never. -
Has Sports_Boner weighed in on this yet?
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Tees and pees to Urban Meyer.
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I think jimmer would be a better coach in college than in the NFL. His schtick gets old pretty fast. With college kids they are only around 3-4 years anyhow. In the nfl, most of his good players are there for twice that time. It will likely do him a lot of good to have the turnover, and ultimate control over players. In the nfl, some of those guys look like they hate him b/c he treats them like children and not adults.
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