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If Sark coached here in 2014...

DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,120
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do Shelton and Kikaha make the same jump to stardom that they did under Petersen?
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    EwaDawgEwaDawg Member Posts: 3,993
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    No just no but HELL NO! .
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    GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,481
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    If Clinton can claim credit for the early 90s economy, Petersen gets the defense in 2014.
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    puppylove_sugarsteelpuppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    Good question. I think Kikaha might have had a chance. He had a good junior season logical to expect him to make somewhat of a jump being a season removed from two ACL tears. I know we like to bash Sark for his player development, but some guys did improve a lot their last season. The problem was many guys also got worse. Mason Foster was a star his senor year after being pretty good his junior year. Victor Aweiya had a really good senior season. Same for Kevin Smith.

    For some reason, I don't think Shelton would have made the jump. Something changed with the new coaches. Also, the new coaches left him in on passing situations. Jeff Choate called it odd that the old staff took him out. Choate's reasoning was even though Shelton may not get that many sacks, he always takes up two blockers freeing up other guys.

    Dont think Shelton would have made the jump? Shelton would have been a 350lb all american at any school in the country. Come on roaddung
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    HeretoBeatmyChest said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    Good question. I think Kikaha might have had a chance. He had a good junior season logical to expect him to make somewhat of a jump being a season removed from two ACL tears. I know we like to bash Sark for his player development, but some guys did improve a lot their last season. The problem was many guys also got worse. Mason Foster was a star his senor year after being pretty good his junior year. Victor Aweiya had a really good senior season. Same for Kevin Smith.

    For some reason, I don't think Shelton would have made the jump. Something changed with the new coaches. Also, the new coaches left him in on passing situations. Jeff Choate called it odd that the old staff took him out. Choate's reasoning was even though Shelton may not get that many sacks, he always takes up two blockers freeing up other guys.

    Dont think Shelton would have made the jump? Shelton would have been a 350lb all american at any school in the country. Come on roaddung
    Road Dung….good one.

    Can I call you Puppy Bung?
    Beauty chestbeater!
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    It all depends on if the kicker would have been clutch in getting practice reduced to one hour.
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    insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
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    MikeDamone said:

    Every player spoke about the difference between kakiwatisaki and Wilcox.

    What did they say was different? I don't recall any explicit comparisons between the 2 coaches.
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    I don't know how anyone could even venture a guess. I have no idea how Choate's coaching differs from Tosh's. I think the position tweak really put Kikaha in his more natural spot, but he was already third in the country in sacks last year, so it's not like this was his breakout season. I don't really see much difference between this year's team and the typical Sark team. We were again loaded with talent, our offensive line sucked, and we were undisciplined as usual, while leaving too many games on the table. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    rodmansragerodmansrage Member Posts: 6,026
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    no.

    the team loses the hawaii game and season goes into a tailspin.
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    topdawgnctopdawgnc Member Posts: 7,838
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    rodmansrage said:

    no.

    the team loses the hawaii game and season goes into a tailspin.

    I think they would have beat Hawaii.

    It's EWU who would have beat Sark.

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    section8section8 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,581
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    RoadDawg55 said:

    Good question. I think Kikaha might have had a chance. He had a good junior season and it was logical to expect him to make somewhat of a jump being a season removed from two ACL tears. I know we like to bash Sark for his player development, but some guys did improve a lot their last season. The problem was many guys also got worse. Mason Foster was a star his senor year after being pretty good his junior year. Victor Aweiya had a really good senior season. Same for Kevin Smith.

    For some reason, I don't think Shelton would have made the jump. Something changed with the new coaches. Also, the new coaches left him in on passing situations. Jeff Choate called it odd that the old staff took him out. Choate's reasoning was even though Shelton may not get that many sacks, he always takes up two blockers freeing up other guys.

    Seemed like Shelton was generally in better physical shape too, not coming out of the game for air quite so often.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    topdawgnc said:

    rodmansrage said:

    no.

    the team loses the hawaii game and season goes into a tailspin.

    I think they would have beat Hawaii.

    It's EWU who would have beat Sark.

    I think Sark would have won both. The first two games were shitty because that was when the transition was being felt the most.

    I also think Petersen and the coaches were testing the DB's against Eastern. Instead of letting them hide, they put them on an island to find out who could play. Kikaha also dropped into coverage a lot that game. When he blitzed, he was pretty disruptive. At that time, the coaches didn't know who their best CB's were. Sidney Jones was like third string.
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    LevelParLevelPar Member Posts: 447
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    DerekJohnson said:

    do Shelton and Kikaha make the same jump to stardom that they did under Petersen?

    I don't know....but Joey's on Lake Union would still be open with rampant genital crabs abound.
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