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My Thoughts on the Playoff Field

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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,453
    Doogles said:



    I never have been a fan of conference championship games, i liked the old pac-10 round robin and don't think the big-12 necessarily needs a championship game to make the playoff.

    apparently they do. and, based on what their commissioner said to Herbstreit in an interview yesterday, they'll likely have one in the very near future (as in next season).

    cook it.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,867 Founders Club

    Doogles said:



    I never have been a fan of conference championship games, i liked the old pac-10 round robin and don't think the big-12 necessarily needs a championship game to make the playoff.

    apparently they do. and, based on what their commissioner said to Herbstreit in an interview yesterday, they'll likely have one in the very near future (as in next season).

    cook it.
    What sense does it make to have a conference championship game when you play a complete round robin schedule? Baylor should have been crowned champ based on the head to head.

    What happens next year when 1 team in the big goes undefeated then loses in the champ game to a team that lost only 1 game? The big12 won't get the lsu-alabama sec treatment in that scenario, that's for sure.
  • BayDawg
    BayDawg Member Posts: 1,623
    The Big 12 fucked themselves in this deal IMHO. It is obvious they thought there was a good chance things could go there way and possibly get two in the playoff, so they massaged it and named co-champions. And got no one.

    Co champions? By every metric they could have used, Baylor was the champion of the Big 12. Personally I think TCU was probably the better team, but the there was a two way tie at the top of a true round robin. HTH decides that. Name your champion and give them a little more meat on their bone with the committee. Dont compromise them and give the committee an easy out. And after OSU looked like they did Saturday night, they took it.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,270
    BayDawg said:

    The Big 12 fucked themselves in this deal IMHO. It is obvious they thought there was a good chance things could go there way and possibly get two in the playoff, so they massaged it and named co-champions. And got no one.

    Co champions? By every metric they could have used, Baylor was the champion of the Big 12. Personally I think TCU was probably the better team, but the there was a two way tie at the top of a true round robin. HTH decides that. Name your champion and give them a little more meat on their bone with the committee. Dont compromise them and give the committee an easy out. And after OSU looked like they did Saturday night, they took it.

    Particularly true when your co-champions aren't historical bluebloods.

    I don't think the Big 12 will expand - there's nobody out there that they can add that will satisfy Texas (and that's a huge issue).

    It will be interesting to see how the Big 12 operates going forward. Do they ask for the Conference Title Game? If so, do they do it based on geography or just have the Top 2 teams play an extra game? If that is the way it goes, take a situation like this year and you'll have Baylor plenty pissed off about a H2H win. But at the same time if you break it up into 5 team divisions that pretty much waters everything down and could result in a situation where you have 2 of your strong teams in the same division.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    BayDawg said:

    The Big 12 fucked themselves in this deal IMHO. It is obvious they thought there was a good chance things could go there way and possibly get two in the playoff, so they massaged it and named co-champions. And got no one.

    Co champions? By every metric they could have used, Baylor was the champion of the Big 12. Personally I think TCU was probably the better team, but the there was a two way tie at the top of a true round robin. HTH decides that. Name your champion and give them a little more meat on their bone with the committee. Dont compromise them and give the committee an easy out. And after OSU looked like they did Saturday night, they took it.

    Yep. Baylor should be absolutely pissed at the Big 12.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,867 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    BayDawg said:

    The Big 12 fucked themselves in this deal IMHO. It is obvious they thought there was a good chance things could go there way and possibly get two in the playoff, so they massaged it and named co-champions. And got no one.

    Co champions? By every metric they could have used, Baylor was the champion of the Big 12. Personally I think TCU was probably the better team, but the there was a two way tie at the top of a true round robin. HTH decides that. Name your champion and give them a little more meat on their bone with the committee. Dont compromise them and give the committee an easy out. And after OSU looked like they did Saturday night, they took it.

    Yep. Baylor should be absolutely pissed at the Big 12.
    Baylor should be pissed at their AD. Northwestern st, buffalo, smu ROTFLMAOOOOOO!!!!111!
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842
    TCU blew a 21 point lead with about 10 minutes left in the game (let that soak in)

    Baylor lost to fucking West Virginia, who's head coach has a mullet.

    Fuck'em both.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    Tequilla said:

    BayDawg said:

    The Big 12 fucked themselves in this deal IMHO. It is obvious they thought there was a good chance things could go there way and possibly get two in the playoff, so they massaged it and named co-champions. And got no one.

    Co champions? By every metric they could have used, Baylor was the champion of the Big 12. Personally I think TCU was probably the better team, but the there was a two way tie at the top of a true round robin. HTH decides that. Name your champion and give them a little more meat on their bone with the committee. Dont compromise them and give the committee an easy out. And after OSU looked like they did Saturday night, they took it.

    Particularly true when your co-champions aren't historical bluebloods.

    I don't think the Big 12 will expand - there's nobody out there that they can add that will satisfy Texas (and that's a huge issue).

    It will be interesting to see how the Big 12 operates going forward. Do they ask for the Conference Title Game? If so, do they do it based on geography or just have the Top 2 teams play an extra game? If that is the way it goes, take a situation like this year and you'll have Baylor plenty pissed off about a H2H win. But at the same time if you break it up into 5 team divisions that pretty much waters everything down and could result in a situation where you have 2 of your strong teams in the same division.
    The BXII should simply instead try not going full retard next year.

    Big12 recovery plan for 2015:

    1) take your double slight like men. Patterson has been great, Briles and the commish are whining like bitches.
    2) tell the Baylor AD to adopt non-vaginal scheduling practices. Plenty of p5 intersectionals get scheduled in a hurry if the parties involved want to buy off some cupcakes to do it.
    3) have a fucking tie breaker in place and stick to it hell or high water.
    4) promote the one true champion you have allegedly produced and ignore the runner up unless you've been touted all season as the new SEC west or some shit.

    The BXII didn't need an extra game. They needed to smear five gallons of lipstick on Baylor's ugly mug and back that pig at the dance. They gambled on two ugly girls making it big and lost bigger. I guess Texans' belt buckles really are tombstones for their dicks when they go on like whiny bitches when their grifting got exposed.

    Baylor was never going to make the playoff if it could be helped because their case sucks due to SMU, nw State and buffalo.

    The narrative we hear too much is the BXII "was screwed." The one that needs more exposure is how the BXII tried to fuck up the inaugural CFP before it had a chance to succeed by pimping two unworthy teams from a "one champion" league.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    The B12 should be forced to add BYU and ND.