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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    To me.... Looks like a Washington vs. Texas battle.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Dawgman has been so far off on this kid saying he was serious about Stanford and Ohio state. My 10.95 here gets me the real story.
  • EwaDawg
    EwaDawg Member Posts: 4,340

    Dawgman has been so far off on this kid saying he was serious about Stanford and Ohio state. Sven's 10.95 here gets me the real story.

    Fixed

  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    The funny thing is that it isn't that hard to figure out stuff and it is also free... All you need is twitter to get info, and if you want predictions and to see trends on where people think players are going to go just look at the 247 Crystal Ball.... WHICH IS FREE.
  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    It's a message I think to Pertersen to get on the next southwest flight
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    edited December 2014
    CW25 ... That sounds familiar.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    I don't think he's coming to UW. I would love to have him though.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295

    I don't think he's coming to UW. I would love to have him though.

    Thought seems to be UW is the leader. Mom's family is from Seattle and she's playing a role in his recruitment. That & Pete gives us a great shot.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Generally speaking, if a kid is going to Texas, he's going to commit to them early.

    He isn't going to Tech - they don't run the ball at all.

    Okie Lite probably has a bit of a chance, but their season this year probably isn't helping.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    I've seen this script before. Girls and money are > @texas than they are at uw. Cool story though.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I've seen this script before. Girls and money are > @texas than they are at uw. Cool story though.

    Texas doesn't pay their players ... rest of the script is true.
  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    I get what you are saying Teq, and I agree with you to an extent. But I still won't believe we are getting a top40 player out of Texas until it happens. I think we do have a great shot though, but until it happens I will be skeptical, like RoadDawg.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I'm pretty sure Warren has offers from just everywhere in the country.

    There's a certain consistency in Warren's Final Four being that none of the schools are what you'd consider to be Top 25 powers at the moment. Tech is a joke - nobody would want to live there IMO. Okie Lite has had recent success but they are second banana to Oklahoma.

    Texas has definitely been down. I like what Charlie Strong is doing down there and I do think he'll get things turned around but in the grand scheme of things, I do think that they are behind where we are in the process though. Moreover, their path to success is much more daunting now that they not only have Oklahoma to deal with, but they also have what TCU and Baylor are doing.

    In contrast, Washington's path to success is passing Stanford (probably going to happen within the next 12-24 months - probably should have happened this year) and Oregon. Win the North and you're probably going to win the conference. Just reading the tea leaves of what is going on in recruiting would say that we're going to be well positioned with the classes we're putting together to be in that spot. Add in the family element and it starts to make sense.

    I get the feeling that Warren likes challenges and is willing to step outside his comfort zone.

    My opinion is that we're the favorite right now.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Hope you're right. We will find out soon as after the games are done is when the players are in the schools and start recruiting guys the hardest. Seen this play out countless times but would love to be wrong.
    Would be great to hear the lpt play this off as he was always coming to uw and Petersen just happened to be the coach.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Tequilla said:

    I'm pretty sure Warren has offers from just everywhere in the country.

    There's a certain consistency in Warren's Final Four being that none of the schools are what you'd consider to be Top 25 powers at the moment. Tech is a joke - nobody would want to live there IMO. Okie Lite has had recent success but they are second banana to Oklahoma.

    Texas has definitely been down. I like what Charlie Strong is doing down there and I do think he'll get things turned around but in the grand scheme of things, I do think that they are behind where we are in the process though. Moreover, their path to success is much more daunting now that they not only have Oklahoma to deal with, but they also have what TCU and Baylor are doing.

    In contrast, Washington's path to success is passing Stanford (probably going to happen within the next 12-24 months - probably should have happened this year) and Oregon. Win the North and you're probably going to win the conference. Just reading the tea leaves of what is going on in recruiting would say that we're going to be well positioned with the classes we're putting together to be in that spot. Add in the family element and it starts to make sense.

    I get the feeling that Warren likes challenges and is willing to step outside his comfort zone.

    My opinion is that we're the favorite right now.

    The #1 RB in the class Soso Jamabo is also from Dallas; UT is battling ND and UCLA for him as well. Warren and Jamabo may be waiting to see what the other does. I think a lot of high profile guys are sniffing around UT and seeing if anyone else is going to take the plunge there on a rebuild and new coach.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    I'm pretty sure Warren has offers from just everywhere in the country.

    There's a certain consistency in Warren's Final Four being that none of the schools are what you'd consider to be Top 25 powers at the moment. Tech is a joke - nobody would want to live there IMO. Okie Lite has had recent success but they are second banana to Oklahoma.

    Texas has definitely been down. I like what Charlie Strong is doing down there and I do think he'll get things turned around but in the grand scheme of things, I do think that they are behind where we are in the process though. Moreover, their path to success is much more daunting now that they not only have Oklahoma to deal with, but they also have what TCU and Baylor are doing.

    In contrast, Washington's path to success is passing Stanford (probably going to happen within the next 12-24 months - probably should have happened this year) and Oregon. Win the North and you're probably going to win the conference. Just reading the tea leaves of what is going on in recruiting would say that we're going to be well positioned with the classes we're putting together to be in that spot. Add in the family element and it starts to make sense.

    I get the feeling that Warren likes challenges and is willing to step outside his comfort zone.

    My opinion is that we're the favorite right now.

    The #1 RB in the class Soso Jamabo is also from Dallas; UT is battling ND and UCLA for him as well. Warren and Jamabo may be waiting to see what the other does. I think a lot of high profile guys are sniffing around UT and seeing if anyone else is going to take the plunge there on a rebuild and new coach.
    That's good info ...

    I'm with you on the idea that a lot of people are taking a bit of a wait and see with what is going on in Austin. Strong is a good coach but his resume isn't 100% convincing that he is the guy to get Texas back to where they want to be. The fact that the old Texas money has never been behind Strong probably hasn't helped.

    In contrast, everybody knows what kind of coach Petersen is ... so that helps when trying to sell the vision to the recruits.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I'm pretty sure Warren has offers from just everywhere in the country.

    There's a certain consistency in Warren's Final Four being that none of the schools are what you'd consider to be Top 25 powers at the moment. Tech is a joke - nobody would want to live there IMO. Okie Lite has had recent success but they are second banana to Oklahoma.

    Texas has definitely been down. I like what Charlie Strong is doing down there and I do think he'll get things turned around but in the grand scheme of things, I do think that they are behind where we are in the process though. Moreover, their path to success is much more daunting now that they not only have Oklahoma to deal with, but they also have what TCU and Baylor are doing.

    In contrast, Washington's path to success is passing Stanford (probably going to happen within the next 12-24 months - probably should have happened this year) and Oregon. Win the North and you're probably going to win the conference. Just reading the tea leaves of what is going on in recruiting would say that we're going to be well positioned with the classes we're putting together to be in that spot. Add in the family element and it starts to make sense.

    I get the feeling that Warren likes challenges and is willing to step outside his comfort zone.

    My opinion is that we're the favorite right now.

    The #1 RB in the class Soso Jamabo is also from Dallas; UT is battling ND and UCLA for him as well. Warren and Jamabo may be waiting to see what the other does. I think a lot of high profile guys are sniffing around UT and seeing if anyone else is going to take the plunge there on a rebuild and new coach.
    That's good info ...

    I'm with you on the idea that a lot of people are taking a bit of a wait and see with what is going on in Austin. Strong is a good coach but his resume isn't 100% convincing that he is the guy to get Texas back to where they want to be. The fact that the old Texas money has never been behind Strong probably hasn't helped.

    In contrast, everybody knows what kind of coach Petersen is ... so that helps when trying to sell the vision to the recruits.
    From what I follow, the #1 player in the entire class is a OLB from Dallas and he is likely down to A&M and UT. He's announcing in a week or so since he's enrolling in January. If he pops for UT it could be the type of event that opens up the levee for UT recruiting #TBS.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    The big thing that Strong has to turn around will be that aTm has the pull of the SEC. In contrast, while you have to get the perception of the Big 12 to the same level as the SEC, the other problem Texas has is the Baylor/TCU problem now - particularly for kids growing up in the DFW area as TCU is a definite option for them now.

    At this point, the big reason that aTm has jumped ahead of Texas in the minds of most in-state kids is because of the SEC. With Texas being down for a few years, they just don't have the pull right now.

    Texas overplayed their hand a few years ago ... that combined with Mack Brown mailing in about a 3-5 year period has them in a shitty position right now. Texas tends to feel that it is their birthright that they are great ... but historically, they are nowhere close to where schools like USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, and even Oklahoma have been.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    Tequilla said:

    I'm pretty sure Warren has offers from just everywhere in the country.

    There's a certain consistency in Warren's Final Four being that none of the schools are what you'd consider to be Top 25 powers at the moment. Tech is a joke - nobody would want to live there IMO. Okie Lite has had recent success but they are second banana to Oklahoma.

    Texas has definitely been down. I like what Charlie Strong is doing down there and I do think he'll get things turned around but in the grand scheme of things, I do think that they are behind where we are in the process though. Moreover, their path to success is much more daunting now that they not only have Oklahoma to deal with, but they also have what TCU and Baylor are doing.

    In contrast, Washington's path to success is passing Stanford (probably going to happen within the next 12-24 months - probably should have happened this year) and Oregon. Win the North and you're probably going to win the conference. Just reading the tea leaves of what is going on in recruiting would say that we're going to be well positioned with the classes we're putting together to be in that spot. Add in the family element and it starts to make sense.

    I get the feeling that Warren likes challenges and is willing to step outside his comfort zone.

    My opinion is that we're the favorite right now.

    The #1 RB in the class Soso Jamabo is also from Dallas; UT is battling ND and UCLA for him as well. Warren and Jamabo may be waiting to see what the other does. I think a lot of high profile guys are sniffing around UT and seeing if anyone else is going to take the plunge there on a rebuild and new coach.
    Hopefully Jamabo goes to Texas. If he does, we have a decent chance at Warren. If he goes to ND or UCLA, he's not coming to UW.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Noticed that warren named a top 4 leaving the door open for one more program to come in and get a visit. This will be a big program from the south that "opened his eyes" after stopping by the high school one day.

    By the sounds of it, I'd say he goes to if mamma jamma doesn't.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    edited December 2014
    Tequilla said:

    The big thing that Strong has to turn around will be that aTm has the pull of the SEC. In contrast, while you have to get the perception of the Big 12 to the same level as the SEC, the other problem Texas has is the Baylor/TCU problem now - particularly for kids growing up in the DFW area as TCU is a definite option for them now.

    At this point, the big reason that aTm has jumped ahead of Texas in the minds of most in-state kids is because of the SEC. With Texas being down for a few years, they just don't have the pull right now.

    Texas overplayed their hand a few years ago ... that combined with Mack Brown mailing in about a 3-5 year period has them in a shitty position right now. Texas tends to feel that it is their birthright that they are great ... but historically, they are nowhere close to where schools like USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, and even Oklahoma have been.

    I disagree that Texas has to fight the pull of the SEC for recruits. Texas is Texas, always will be. Yes their arrogance has increased exponentially since the VY Natty, but that state and that program are linked for eternity.

    edit: Also, we've all heard the trope "but RGIII/Jameis/Manziel wanted to go to Texas." It's tired, but it's true.
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    Tequilla said:

    but historically, they are nowhere close to where schools like USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, and even Oklahoma have been.

    Don't want to beat a dead horse here and I know you probably despise Texas, but still...

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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    Tequilla said:

    but historically, they are nowhere close to where schools like USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, and even Oklahoma have been.

    Don't want to beat a dead horse here and I know you probably despise Texas, but still...

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    Froogs gonna Froog.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Beginning in 1978, Texas has won only 8 conference championships. This is what I'm talking about. Most Texas people would think that the numbers has been at least double that.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    Tequilla said:

    Beginning in 1978, Texas has won only 8 conference championships. This is what I'm talking about. Most Texas people would think that the numbers has been at least double that.

    Talking about a different thing. Kids still like to go to Texas. The Baylor and tcu option is not a serious threat to their talent. The talent development at those programs is the threat.
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,992

    Tequilla said:

    but historically, they are nowhere close to where schools like USC, Alabama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio, and even Oklahoma have been.

    Don't want to beat a dead horse here and I know you probably despise Texas, but still...

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    What, no Yale?

    (Yale has 876 wins)

    Also, looks like we're getting close to win #700 soon.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    Tequilla said:

    Beginning in 1978, Texas has won only 8 conference championships. This is what I'm talking about. Most Texas people would think that the numbers has been at least double that.

    Ahh, the power of selective endpoints.

    Move the point to 90 and they have 6 in that time, which isn't quite so terrible. Oklahoma only has 8 in that time.

    Texas is a top 10 overall powerhouse, just waiting for the right coach. Not sure Strong's the guy, but they'll find him eventually and be a perennial nightmare for your boys when they do.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,331
    dnc said:

    Tequilla said:

    Beginning in 1978, Texas has won only 8 conference championships. This is what I'm talking about. Most Texas people would think that the numbers has been at least double that.

    Ahh, the power of selective endpoints.

    Move the point to 90 and they have 6 in that time, which isn't quite so terrible. Oklahoma only has 8 in that time.

    Texas is a top 10 overall powerhouse, just waiting for the right coach. Not sure Strong's the guy, but they'll find him eventually and be a perennial nightmare for your boys when they do.
    This. But you know. Froogs gotta froog.