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It's That Time of Year: Bhonapha Visits Chris Warren
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To borrow from my buddy Oahu Dawg ... In The Bag!!!
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How pathetic is it that this Lars tool is running circles around Ektard and F3?
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Those are big ass circlesDugtheDoog said:How pathetic is it that this Lars tool is running circles around Ektard and F3?
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[either way] It'll be interesting to see how this coaching staff recruits Texas. Sark only recruited one player from Texas during his time at UW (Walker), and the only other player from Texas in the last decade was Victor Aiyewa.
We already have a commit from Texas for 2015 and just offered Warren's WR teammate, so it seems that there is a stronger focus in recruiting talent from Texas. I don't recall Sark offering many players from Texas until his final year recruiting at UW (Walker, Daeshon Hall, and some WRs). -
Iirc, Choate is really tied into TX nicely. Hopefully coach bonerpopper can seal the deal.
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Choate and Pease are the main ones. Those guys have recruited Texas for a long time. I am guessing Bhonapha has done the same as well since he has been at Boise for awhile and those guys went to Texas often.
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Gee, Keith Bhonapha is tall
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Bhonapoppa in the house
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Normally the odds of UW getting a 4-star RB from texas are less-than-miniscule. But I am mindful of Petersen's philosophy that he doesn't waste time on recruits that he has no chance of landing.
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Last year's close said a lot. He closed the deal on pretty much everyone he was in on. Budda and McGary are the most obvious—but he also closed the deal on Nate Dogg and Seferian Austin Carta Holy Grail (both 4-star guys). Further, he stole Sidney Jones from Utah, offered Pettis and held off Miami for Lenius.Passion said:Normally the odds of UW getting a 4-star RB from texas are less-than-miniscule. But I am mindful of Petersen's philosophy that he doesn't waste time on recruits that he has no chance of landing.
Anyone who thinks Pete can't recruit is a fuckwad. I don't know if we'll get Warren or not, but I do know that we aren't Ruben Fostering. -
There are some interesting challenges this year. throbmorton is disappointing, but hey - you can't fault a kid for wanting gaudy uniforms and a degree from a poorly ranked university.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Last year's close said a lot. He closed the deal on pretty much everyone he was in on. Budda and McGary are the most obvious—but he also closed the deal on Nate Dogg and Seferian Austin Carta Holy Grail (both 4-star guys). Further, he stole Sidney Jones from Utah, offered Pettis and held off Miami for Lenius.Passion said:Normally the odds of UW getting a 4-star RB from texas are less-than-miniscule. But I am mindful of Petersen's philosophy that he doesn't waste time on recruits that he has no chance of landing.
Anyone who thinks Pete can't recruit is a fuckwad. I don't know if we'll get Warren or not, but I do know that we aren't Ruben Fostering.
Obviously the big outstanding in-stater is Benning Potoae...and probably Joyner.
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Gatdang, Warren is a beast.
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With both Throbmoreman and Lemieux it honestly seemed like Pete didn't really want them. They only nominally recruited Throb and basically stopped after Hilbers committed. I'm not a WDWHA kind of guy, but the facts are the facts... Throb just wasn't a massive target for us for whatever reason.Passion said:
There are some interesting challenges this year. throbmorton is disappointing, but hey - you can't fault a kid for wanting gaudy uniforms and a degree from a poorly ranked university.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Last year's close said a lot. He closed the deal on pretty much everyone he was in on. Budda and McGary are the most obvious—but he also closed the deal on Nate Dogg and Seferian Austin Carta Holy Grail (both 4-star guys). Further, he stole Sidney Jones from Utah, offered Pettis and held off Miami for Lenius.Passion said:Normally the odds of UW getting a 4-star RB from texas are less-than-miniscule. But I am mindful of Petersen's philosophy that he doesn't waste time on recruits that he has no chance of landing.
Anyone who thinks Pete can't recruit is a fuckwad. I don't know if we'll get Warren or not, but I do know that we aren't Ruben Fostering.
Obviously the big outstanding in-stater is Benning Potoae...and probably Joyner.
He needs to close on some interior DLs.
If they don't close on Potatoe and Joyner I'll be shocked. Very similar to Budda and McGary last year, except easier to convince in both cases.
If you add Potatoe and Austin Joyner to this class... one surprise guy like C.Warren... all of a sudden we are talking about a top 15-20 class.
With Jusstis Warren, Potatoe and Joyner I'm basically just assuming they're all in. There are a few other kids who seem like heavy leans at this point (Fat Predator Ricky McCoy is the one that springs to mind).
Then we have a bunch of kids who we are going to get (or have gotten) visits from who are all very good players and getting just 2 or 3 of them would be pretty exciting
RBs - C.Warren, C.Scarlett
WRs - X.Castille, J.Hawkins
OL - J.Empey
DL - C.Peat, R.Manu, A.Fotu (JC)
LB - T.Bartlett, A.Camargo
DB - D.Holiday, E.Turner (JC)
ATHs - N.Meadors, O.Spencer
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Interesting times either way?
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I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job. -
But has Lars put out 3 recruiting blogs in 3 days?
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Until Peternorth allows more access to recruiting websites like Dawgman.com he is only going to be a Mountain West or church school type of recruiter.
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Maybe, but there is something wrong about letting a top-ranked DL leave the state. WA just doesn't produce a lot of these kids, like louisiana.RoadDawg55 said:I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job.
Also, Benning (6'4" 265) seems to have a different body type than Sione (6'2" 278). He is thinner and rangier. I guess I'd rather take him, if there is room. -
Agree about taking him, and it's evident the coaches have made him a priority. I have some family that went to Lakes and still attend a few games a year. They have said Potatoe looks great, but doesn't have that much of an impact on the field. Lakes hasn't been very good for a few years.Passion said:
Maybe, but there is something wrong about letting a top-ranked DL leave the state. WA just doesn't produce a lot of these kids, like louisiana.RoadDawg55 said:I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job.
Also, Benning seems to have a different body type than his brother. He is thinner and rangier. I guess I'd rather take him, if there is room. -
Considering the quantum leap in dl play and improvement shown by our players there this year, I feel Benning will have a much bigger impact at UW over his brother just from coaching alone.
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Solid poont @kh83
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Uh, all due respect @RoadDawg55, but did you see what we did with Andrew Hudson this year? Okay. If—after last year—we'd said we were recruiting Hudson's brother, wouldn't you have had a similar reaction?RoadDawg55 said:
Agree about taking him, and it's evident the coaches have made him a priority. I have some family that went to Lakes and still attend a few games a year. They have said Potatoe looks great, but doesn't have that much of an impact on the field. Lakes hasn't been very good for a few years.Passion said:
Maybe, but there is something wrong about letting a top-ranked DL leave the state. WA just doesn't produce a lot of these kids, like louisiana.RoadDawg55 said:I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job.
Also, Benning seems to have a different body type than his brother. He is thinner and rangier. I guess I'd rather take him, if there is room.
It turns out player development matters. Sione was thrown out there as a TRUE FRESHMAN and when he didn't dominate like the staff was used to seeing at USC, they scrapped him.
Anyway, I trust them at this point. The evals they made on kids last year (Jones, Pettis) have bought them a lot of tolerance for me this year.
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That's all fine and I'm not claiming to be an expert on evaluating high school players. Based on Potato's offers, coaches think he has potential. I thought Banner sucked too even though he had offers from almost everyone. You watched a highlight film Dennis. My cousin has seen him in action a handful of times over the past three years. He may not be a professional TBSer, but he's been pretty spot on with Lakes prospects dating back to Middleton and Kearse. I trust the coaches as well, but not every prospect is going to do well at UW.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Uh, all due respect @RoadDawg55, but did you see what we did with Andrew Hudson this year? Okay. If—after last year—we'd said we were recruiting Hudson's brother, wouldn't you have had a similar reaction?RoadDawg55 said:
Agree about taking him, and it's evident the coaches have made him a priority. I have some family that went to Lakes and still attend a few games a year. They have said Potatoe looks great, but doesn't have that much of an impact on the field. Lakes hasn't been very good for a few years.Passion said:
Maybe, but there is something wrong about letting a top-ranked DL leave the state. WA just doesn't produce a lot of these kids, like louisiana.RoadDawg55 said:I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job.
Also, Benning seems to have a different body type than his brother. He is thinner and rangier. I guess I'd rather take him, if there is room.
It turns out player development matters. Sione was thrown out there as a TRUE FRESHMAN and when he didn't dominate like the staff was used to seeing at USC, they scrapped him.
Anyway, I trust them at this point. The evals they made on kids last year (Jones, Pettis) have bought them a lot of tolerance for me this year.
Also, in my opinion, Potatoe's film is more impressive than his brother's.
You are using the trust the coaches shit when it suits you. The coaches love Browning, but you don't. That's how I am with young Potato.
Sione didn't get scrapped. He had two different coaching staffs to make his mark and he didn't with either. Maybe injuries were the real reason why he sucked, but he also came in at around 270 and left around 270. He didn't get any bigger and never got any push all four years.
TL, DR: He's not my favorite prospect. If we get him I hope he develops and becomes a great player (like every other guy we get). -
If Lars writes a recruiting blog and posts it on realdawg, does anyone read it?Tequilla said:But has Lars put out 3 recruiting blogs in 3 days?
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There was a lot of talk in boise the last few years of peterbuns making a huge effort in texas. There were a few people who ripped him for ever thinking that BSU would get kids from texas. That being said, you have to start somewhere in building those relationships with coaches and players. It wasn't going to be a "Hey, lets go to texas and we'll pull out 5 great kids this year...". But, after a few years of work and building with kids he finally has the platform to recruit against the likes of texas when he can sell UW(vs BSU).CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:Choate and Pease are the main ones. Those guys have recruited Texas for a long time. I am guessing Bhonapha has done the same as well since he has been at Boise for awhile and those guys went to Texas often.
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These are good poonts. However, Dude Brah hated Old Potatoe and (I've heard from good sources, whatever) told the arriving coaches he was a worthless POS. Maybe he was right.RoadDawg55 said:
That's all fine and I'm not claiming to be an expert on evaluating high school players. Based on Potato's offers, coaches think he has potential. I thought Banner sucked too even though he had offers from almost everyone. You watched a highlight film Dennis. My cousin has seen him in action a handful of times over the past three years. He may not be a professional TBSer, but he's been pretty spot on with Lakes prospects dating back to Middleton and Kearse. I trust the coaches as well, but not every prospect is going to do well at UW.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Uh, all due respect @RoadDawg55, but did you see what we did with Andrew Hudson this year? Okay. If—after last year—we'd said we were recruiting Hudson's brother, wouldn't you have had a similar reaction?RoadDawg55 said:
Agree about taking him, and it's evident the coaches have made him a priority. I have some family that went to Lakes and still attend a few games a year. They have said Potatoe looks great, but doesn't have that much of an impact on the field. Lakes hasn't been very good for a few years.Passion said:
Maybe, but there is something wrong about letting a top-ranked DL leave the state. WA just doesn't produce a lot of these kids, like louisiana.RoadDawg55 said:I haven't gotten too into recruiting this year, but I'm meh on young Potatoe. I'm worried he's just like his brother and is basically maxed out at 18. Sione dominated in high school because he was stronger and more mature than the guys he was playing against.
Benning was considered a 5 star guy by Biggins two years ago, but has steadily dropped since. Just thinking out loud here. I'm no talent evaluator and I'm not ready to submit a resume to Woody for Peterman's job.
Also, Benning seems to have a different body type than his brother. He is thinner and rangier. I guess I'd rather take him, if there is room.
It turns out player development matters. Sione was thrown out there as a TRUE FRESHMAN and when he didn't dominate like the staff was used to seeing at USC, they scrapped him.
Anyway, I trust them at this point. The evals they made on kids last year (Jones, Pettis) have bought them a lot of tolerance for me this year.
Also, in my opinion, Potatoe's film is more impressive than his brother's.
You are using the trust the coaches shit when it suits you. The coaches love Browning, but you don't. That's how I am with young Potato.
Sione didn't get scrapped. He had two different coaching staffs to make his mark and he didn't with either. Maybe injuries were the real reason why he sucked, but he also came in at around 270 and left around 270. He didn't get any bigger and never got any push all four years.
TL, DR: He's not my favorite prospect. If we get him I hope he develops and becomes a great player (like every other guy we get).
The Browning thing is one where I just think he sucks, but I basically trust the coaches and have said as much. With Browning, I'm willing to accept that there is something I'm not seeing, but every time I see his tape I cringe. I am just throwing my opinion out there for discussion.
I honestly don't know what to make of all of that... but in general I trust the coaches because of their record at Boise and what I saw this year with Pettis and Jones, etc.
Also, just to be a TBS Superiority Guy for a moment, Danny "Salim" Shelton was downgraded in his last year because BrandonHuffandstuffFS saw his game and thought he was a lazy turd. I can't count how many linemen people watch in person and people say they suck. It's because, in general, linemen are fat and lazy in HS. Shelton was a great example. During his recruitment there were no shortage of people saying that they'd seen him play at Auburn and he was lazy and sucked.
Last, 'highlight films' are a fine way to get a gross eval on a kid because you're not really watching for the play itself (just like stats are meaningless), you are watching for how quickly they move, whether they hit kids harder than is expected, whether their body motion is exceptional (hips, blah blah). So, the highlights themselves are not that interesting... it's more about just watching the kid's motion in space.
ALL OF THIS BEING SAID...
Young Potatoe could suck. I'm not of the opinion he's a lock to be good.
You may be right, I may be crazy.
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Also @RoadDawg55 — I just went back and watched Young Potatoe's film...
He looks fucking great to me. I'm not saying I know and I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying he looks like Jojo Mathis on film. He's built like Evan Hudson and just shocks people with his strength.
I'm sure he doesn't dominate on every play, but in terms of being a baller, I don't know what else you would want to see on film. If he's tough and willing to be coached up (big ifs), he is definitely worthy of being a 4-star kid in my view.
If his name were Chris Mills and from Gonzaga Prep, I think we'd all be psyched he is considering us.
