Analysis of an elite football coach.
One of the traits that Don James possessed was his attention to detail. Even the slightest imperfection would result in a tirade and extra conditioning after practice. It's been discussed ad nauseum.
Here is one excerpt from this month's GQ story on Saban: "Saban's guiding vision is something he calls "the process," a philosophy that emphasizes preparation and hard work over consideration of outcomes or results. Barrett Jones, an offensive lineman on all three of Saban's national championship teams at alabama and now a rookie with the St. Louis Rams, explains the process this way: "It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
"Taken to an extreme - which is where Saban takes it - the process has evolved into an exhausting quest to improve, to attain the ideal of "right is never wrong." At alabama, Saban obsesses over every aspect of preparation, from how the players dress at practice - no hats, earrings, or tank tops are allowed in the football facility - to how they hold their upper bodies when they run sprints. "When you're running and you're exhausted you really want to bend over," Jones says, "They won't let you. 'You must resist the human need to bend over!'"
Read this story. Trust me. It will cause you to admire him, question his "humanness," (which the author, an alabama fan, does) and finally make you effing jealous that we don't have him.
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Sark gives crisp pressers with lots of FREE PUB, so cut the negative agenda please.
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Wait -- do the Bama players get to play video games on their stadium scoreboard?
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Does the process include having A LIVE TIGER at practice? I didn't think so.
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Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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If the older guy ahead sucks, why would you bench the better player just b/c he is a true freshman?Passion said:
Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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Jesus. Is this National Hemp Day? That's the point, buddy. Why does the guy ahead of them suck? Because he wasn't developed, or because he should've signed an LOI with Central Washington or Montana State. That's our problem.ThomasFremont said:
If the older guy ahead sucks, why would you bench the better player just b/c he is a true freshman?Passion said:
Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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Why did all the guys ahead of Amari Cooper suck?Passion said:
Jesus. Is this National Hemp Day? That's the point, buddy. Why does the guy ahead of them suck? Because he wasn't developed, or because he should've signed an LOI with Central Washington or Montana State. That's our problem.ThomasFremont said:
If the older guy ahead sucks, why would you bench the better player just b/c he is a true freshman?Passion said:
Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
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So why play the shitty player? If the coaching and development are a constant, why hamstring your lineup with an inferior player??? Makes no fucking sense.
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So you're saying Saban doesn't throw his visor, fall to the ground then run off?
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What kind of practice music does Saban play?DerekJohnson said:Wait -- do the Bama players get to play video games on their stadium scoreboard?
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Does Alabama have a smoke machine?MikeDamone said:
What kind of practice music does Saban play?DerekJohnson said:Wait -- do the Bama players get to play video games on their stadium scoreboard?
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How many more stupid questions are you going to ask?TheKobeStopper said:
Why did all the guys ahead of Amari Cooper suck?Passion said:
Jesus. Is this National Hemp Day? That's the point, buddy. Why does the guy ahead of them suck? Because he wasn't developed, or because he should've signed an LOI with Central Washington or Montana State. That's our problem.ThomasFremont said:
If the older guy ahead sucks, why would you bench the better player just b/c he is a true freshman?Passion said:
Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
If you have an elite high school freshman, it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy ahead of him sucks. As time wore on, Napoleon Kaufman started ahead of Beno Bryant, but that doesn't mean that Beno Bryant sucked. It means that Napoleon Kaufman was elite. That is an example of when it's OK for a true freshman to start.
All to often at UW, including under Sark, a true freshman will get thrust into action not because he is elite. It's because the guy ahead of him is simply a bust, while the true freshman is better, but not necessarily good enough for pac-12 play. There is a difference. -
If he's not good enough for Pac-12 play, and the player ahead of him is even worse, what fucking difference does it make?
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Derek - I think we need an IQ test for membership eligibility.ThomasFremont said:If he's not good enough for Pac-12 play, and the player ahead of him is even worse, what fucking difference does it make?
I said: "...the guy ahead of him is simply a bust, while the true freshman is better, but not necessarily good enough for pac-12 play." In other words, a true freshman can still be better than the waste-of-space upperclassman, but not necessarily ready to compete at the pac-12 level.
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Funny, since you'd be the first one out.Passion said:
Derek - I think we need an IQ test for membership eligibility.ThomasFremont said:If he's not good enough for Pac-12 play, and the player ahead of him is even worse, what fucking difference does it make?
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Wow. Witty comeback.ThomasFremont said:
Funny, since you'd be the first one out.Passion said:
Derek - I think we need an IQ test for membership eligibility.ThomasFremont said:If he's not good enough for Pac-12 play, and the player ahead of him is even worse, what fucking difference does it make?
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What's with the personal attacks, mang?
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There is one true freshman listed as a starter for UW. He is rated basically exactly the same as a true freshman that started for Alabama last season. So what exactly is your point? And can we get back to bitching about all the 4 star backup quarterbacks?Passion said:
How many more stupid questions are you going to ask?TheKobeStopper said:
Why did all the guys ahead of Amari Cooper suck?Passion said:
Jesus. Is this National Hemp Day? That's the point, buddy. Why does the guy ahead of them suck? Because he wasn't developed, or because he should've signed an LOI with Central Washington or Montana State. That's our problem.ThomasFremont said:
If the older guy ahead sucks, why would you bench the better player just b/c he is a true freshman?Passion said:
Thank you, RoadDawg55. I thought my reference to Shaq Thompson (an exception for UW) and Herschel Walker made the point. alabama plays elite true freshmen. We play guys simply because the guys ahead of them didn't pan out. Does Potoa'e ring a bell?RoadDawg55 said:
He actually gets true freshmen that are elite. The saying, "Why redshirt a guy for the NFL, is oftentimes true at Alabama. Other than in very rare cases, Washington does not.TheKobeStopper said:Nick Saban played true freshman last season. He's doing a bad job of developing players.
If you have an elite high school freshman, it doesn't necessarily mean that the guy ahead of him sucks. As time wore on, Napoleon Kaufman started ahead of Beno Bryant, but that doesn't mean that Beno Bryant sucked. It means that Napoleon Kaufman was elite. That is an example of when it's OK for a true freshman to start.
All to often at UW, including under Sark, a true freshman will get thrust into action not because he is elite. It's because the guy ahead of him is simply a bust, while the true freshman is better, but not necessarily good enough for pac-12 play. There is a difference. -
Give him time, I'm sure he'll make a point eventually...
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There's going to be some timeouts
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Not in the middle of the store, please.RaceBannon said:There's going to be some timeouts
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Does Saban call his players insecure racists and sexists?
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My check list of an elite head coach
- Is he an ELITE practice squad QB?
- Tigers, Elephants, Kamodo Dragons?
- FREE PUB! ??
- Kick ass pressers!??
- Swimming with the kids after practice?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjDVsw-eQU
Team is up 27 points and he is blowing up on McCaron back when he was a backup QB. No lawnmower, no talking shit to the fans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8e-jSZV0g
National title game look how intense the players and Saban still are. They are up 30 at the time.
The only time I've seen Sark lose his cool was against Portland State when our players were acting like tough guys a week after being bitched slapped by LSU. -
I'm hearing a higher intelligent board is in the works so we can get intelligent posters like Bill Fleenor over here to talk to us about his dish coverage.Passion said:
Derek - I think we need an IQ test for membership eligibility.ThomasFremont said:If he's not good enough for Pac-12 play, and the player ahead of him is even worse, what fucking difference does it make?
I said: "...the guy ahead of him is simply a bust, while the true freshman is better, but not necessarily good enough for pac-12 play." In other words, a true freshman can still be better than the waste-of-space upperclassman, but not necessarily ready to compete at the pac-12 level.
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Sark shares this trait with Saban.Passion said:You want to read a story that will spark admiration and envy? Pick up a copy of this month's "GQ Magazine." There is a four-page story (or rather, a four-page analysis) that delves into the inspiring, disconcerting, and ultimately winning formula followed by alabama head football coach Nick Saban.
One of the traits that Don James possessed was his attention to detail. Even the slightest imperfection would result in a tirade and extra conditioning after practice. It's been discussed ad nauseum.
Here is one excerpt from this month's GQ story on Saban: "Saban's guiding vision is something he calls "the process," a philosophy that emphasizes preparation and hard work over consideration of outcomes or results. Barrett Jones, an offensive lineman on all three of Saban's national championship teams at alabama and now a rookie with the St. Louis Rams, explains the process this way: "It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
"Taken to an extreme - which is where Saban takes it - the process has evolved into an exhausting quest to improve, to attain the ideal of "right is never wrong." At alabama, Saban obsesses over every aspect of preparation, from how the players dress at practice - no hats, earrings, or tank tops are allowed in the football facility - to how they hold their upper bodies when they run sprints. "When you're running and you're exhausted you really want to bend over," Jones says, "They won't let you. 'You must resist the human need to bend over!'"
Read this story. Trust me. It will cause you to admire him, question his "humanness," (which the author, an alabama fan, does) and finally make you effing jealous that we don't have him.
He had his team work extra hours until that lawnmower dance was PERFECTED.
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There are a ton of different ways to be successful as a head coach. The lawn mower worked for USC. Some dork assistant coach ucla wore brave heart war paint on his face in their game vs Arizona last year as the defense he coached dominated. erickson was a Good coach with very little discipline. Whatever you do, just win the games and it does not matter how you got there.
Now the point about attention to detail is interesting. It seems more of the successful coaches fall under this category.
Brian Kelly freaks out if their lockers are not organized the right way.
Talking to former players of his, playing for urban Meyer is far from fun. Everything is so detailed down to each rep in the weight room.
And Brian Kelly is obsessed about the details down to their locker and how its organized too.
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