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  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,461 Standard Supporter

    Agree with dtd, the bye week narrative is bullshit.

  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,403 Founders Club
    edited January 3

    I think you (and @whlinder) missed my point. I agree with the idea that a bye week somehow means "rust" to explain the losses is bullshit. The issue is improper seeding, if seeding is meant to represent true ranking. That's my point and "bye teams" going 1-7 over two years exposes a flaw in the current seeding system.

    Fact is having a bye week is a huge benefit for a superior team, they will use the time to prepare and can destroy their opponent when their lower seeded opponent is truly inferior. Indiana's triple plunger stuffing of Alabama is a perfect example of that.

    While rule based (and by probably the most fair rule), seeding Oregon into a bye week over OSU last year is another example. OSU was head and shoulders the better team. Oregon didn't stand a chance.

    Texas Tech getting a bye week seed was also the result of improper seeding, albeit by a fair rule. Oregon trouncing them demonstrated that they were improperly seeded, especially given that JMU was able to hang 34 on Oregon, while TT was blanked.

    Bottom line, the better teams are winning. Bye teams are 1-7 over two years because most of them were improperly seeded, that is if seeding is meant to represent true ranking rather than regular season reward. That is the issue, but it isn't easy to solve IMO because the solution would involve more judging and fewer fair (IMO fair) rules.

  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,080 Founders Club

    @Southerndawg
    How would you have seeded it? Georgia isn’t top 4? Ohio State? Tech is the only team you could have argued against and they won their conference easily, winning by an average of 25+, lost one game on the road in which their QB was injured and annihilated 12-2 BYU twice for their only losses. My only complaint is that the G5 teams were historically bad this year and they got 2 into the field. Tulane at Oregon and Notre Dame at Mississippi would have been much better. Lastly the quarterfinals should be home games. Top 4 seeds should get home field advantage.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,589
    edited January 3

    Pretty hard to justify seeding OSU over Oregon last year, and while they throttled them that day and were arguably better at that point in the season, I'm not sure it's fair to say they were head and shoulders the better team. Oregon beat them during the regular season and won the conference. You have to seed according to those results. Otherwise, you're giving it to ND whining this year. "Yeah, but that [losing to Miami] was at the beginning of the season and we're better now."

    I follow a team that over the years has had seasons in which they lost games during the season but was, by year-end, a killer nobody wanted to play. I never whined about where they wound up bowl-wise. You are what your record says you are and you live with the results.

  • KimsCopperPenny
    KimsCopperPenny Member Posts: 282
  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 6,382 Standard Supporter

    Huge difference between a bye week and a bye month

    @Southerndawg

  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,083 Swaye's Wigwam

    @Southerndawg

    Fucktarded post of the year.

    The seeding was "fixed" this year. It was straight 1-4 for byes.

    Which, by math and logic, demonstrates that it could not be purely a seeding phenomenon.

    Dear Lord

  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,083 Swaye's Wigwam

    Not sure it's fair to say? Not sure???

    Oregon fucking beat them. And was 13-0. And tOSU also lost to shit UM.

    The OP dropped the absolute dumbest post I've read in at least 3 days. Giving them less than at least a 300-word reprimand is, quite frankly, shameful.

  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,848 Standard Supporter

    It might not be, but people are pretending that it's cut and dry, when it's clearly dubious at best.

  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,848 Standard Supporter
    edited January 4

    Entering the playoffs, there was one undefeated team last year. There was one team that had 13 wins. There were only two teams that won 12 games or more and one of them handed the other their only loss. Stop and think about that. Oregon was at least 2 games removed from every single other team in the nation but BSU. They had wins over three fucking playoff teams. Oregon didn't stand a chance against a team they had already beaten dumbfuckery of the day.