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Head Coach Jedd Fisch Postgame Press Conference: Ohio State

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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,717 Swaye's Wigwam

    You're playing thought police Teq. Your last paragraph, and many others in these recent threads make it obvious. You keep saying things like "Let's let Jedd prove..."

    Why do you care so much what others here think? You talk about it like it's such a weighty matter that "we" all be on the same page. It isn't.

    I agree with you that Fisch didnt inherit as much talent as Deboer, for the record. Thats a piss poor way to prop up what Fish has or hasn't done so far, how he receuits and manages the roster and manages on gameday though. He's in competition with the B1G, not Deboer.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,616 Founders Club

    Doogs hate winners and make excuses for losers

    Tequilla is a doog and unfortunately so is the administration

    Not sure if DeBoer is better than Fisch

    Delete your account Tequilla

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    Get fucked Race

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    You're right … we are competing against the B10

    As a fanbase we need to stop with this ridiculous negativity all the time … it makes us look like small time bitches

    Fisch isn't perfect as a coach but he's done a lot more right so far than wrong …

    We'll learn a lot more about this team and Fisch after this weekend

  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,415 Founders Club

    My thoughts on Fisch overlap with what @theknowledge said but I also I can’t get over the fake FG and calling that “execution”.

    Good coaching sets up players to execute and running that play was not good coaching.

  • Quietcowskee
    Quietcowskee Member Posts: 4,296 Standard Supporter

    Looks like the golves are off👌👌👌

  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,513 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited 2:31PM

    Great to see this place is back to hitting on all cylinders

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,616 Founders Club

    ^^^^^^^could fit on a glass?

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,272 Founders Club

    Would you say he's done 7 things right for 6 things he's done wrong?

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,513

    Partially with you. Taking a step back Fisch was hardly an uninspired hire. Took a team from the bottom to top in 2 seasons and acquired talent. Theoretically the trajectory of great is still on the table even though he butchered a once in a decade opportunity to beat the #1 at home.

    Unless he beats the #1 at home in November

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,830 Founders Club

    Winning the Alamo Bowl is taking a team to the top?

    Don't get me wrong, what he did was impressive. But let's not fall to revisionist history

  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,428 Standard Supporter

    I actually thought the first half sucked because the writing was on the wall after they couldn't punch it in from the 2 yard line. And then the full retard fake field goal was the nail in the coffin.

  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,428 Standard Supporter
    edited 4:06PM

    @Tequilla

    2021 team…I dunno. I think the QB was a pretty big question mark and DeBoer fixed that problem. No DeBoer and there is no BPE and UW wins 5-6 games in 2022.

    Edit: why do I have to double-click the quote feature to get it to work if I've already quoted another post on the same page without double-clicking the button?

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,513

    For half the teams in the nation including Arizona being the #11 ranked team and beating a #12 Oklahoma is absolutely the top. He won and he won fast with 5 ranked wins and 2 of his 3 losses to top 10 teams.

    Push that standard up to UWs level and I'm not writing him off as a killer yet that's all

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,830 Founders Club

    Playing for the natty is the top

    But we will agree to disagree

  • flatus
    flatus Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,513 Swaye's Wigwam

    Buck D lives for first and goal. They're incredibly proficient at stopping TDs. Nobody scores consistently inside the 10 against buck.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    You're such a stubborn idiot Race

    DeBoer was NEVER staying once Alabama was on the table … NEVER STAYING

    You can blame the AD all that you want for not making him an offer that he couldn't refuse but there was a really good offer on the table (over $10M/yr) that DeBoer refused to sign (wonder why) well before Saban retired and Alabama was on the table. You can play the woulda coulda game but it's not reality.

    Fisch may be the guy or he may not be the guy … time will prove that. Losing to #1 early in Year 2 doesn't definitively say he is or isn't the guy.

    You can say "nobody wants to sit back and wait to see if he's the guy or not" and that's great but what's the reality?

    The reality is that Washington doesn't generate revenues and donations at the levels of the bluest of blue bloods. We're not buying a top end roster every year to do the shortcuts that you want done. For UW that's not a sustainable approach. IF you (and others) want to buy that top end roster each year then start ponying up significantly more dollars to do so … but you (and others) won't because it's easier to sit back, bitch, and moan.

    A far more % of coaches are not the guy instead of being the guy. Go through the history of UW head coaches and give me the "win rate" of the head coach being "the guy" … it's a lower % than you think it is.

    I'd be willing to bet that if I searched hard enough you were skewering DeBoer after the back to back losses to UCLA and Arizona State …

    Your game is very transparent at this point … don't discuss facts in any detail, hide behind and anchor to BS opinions, and call people names. You like to view that as #winning … that shows how out of touch you are with anything.

    I haven't even started to take any gloves off … Race has to come a lot better than he has for me to do more than jab with a single hand

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    @UW_Doog_Bot

    It's easy to nit pick any coach and find faults and scream "he's not the guy"

    I HATED the fake FG for a number of reasons. I didn't like the Blitz 0 that led to Ohio State's 1st TD. The option play against the Coug was curious.

    I was talking with the ghost of DDY the other day and I told him I wasn't thrilled with Fisch not taking accountability for some of the bad play calls that have been made and defaulting to execution. I'm a big believer that as a leader you don't ask people to do things that you're not willing to do. I'm sure Fisch asks his players to be accountable and I'd like to see him do the same when it's required. I hope someone in the AD (or CP) pulls Fisch to the side and gives him that perspective.

    Big picture though recruiting has rebounded and is trending back to CP levels which is what is needed for this program to compete at the higher levels. I do not feel like people really have a good grasp at how back recruiting was under Lake and DeBoer. I do like that we play hard and that by and large execution is at a solid level. Winning all of the home games last year with the roster we had was a really big win. Hiring Walters to replace Jr Hoodie was an upgrade and I think we've seen that play out this year (notably on the DL and run defense).

    So yes, I do think that the program is moving in the right direction and in a sustainable one under Fisch. I can't say whether he's the guy to win a Big10 or having us compete for a Natty yet but I do think it's on the table.

    As for this idea that we blew a chance to beat Ohio State … we showed that we could hold on our own on the same field with them. We needed A LOT to go right for us to win that game. We had a lot of things to go right. We made too many errors and didn't execute well enough … a lot of the execution issues you have to give credit to Ohio State for.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    No question on Penix but let's also not forget that Penix coming in here was a giant question mark given his injury history. We unquestionably hit the jackpot with Penix.

    Do people forget that Haener was the original goal for DeBoer and that the only reason he didn't come back to UW was due to off the field reasons (academics/timing if I remember right)?

    So if we would have got Haener or the injury-version of Penix and go 7-5 or 8-4 in Year 1, and then Year 2 doesn't happen because guys leave early for the NFL, is Race and Co. still crowning DeBoer and using as further proof of UW AD ineptitude?

    Don't get me wrong in saying that having an elite coach matters a lot … but even the best coaches need players

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,118
    edited 6:08PM

    Agreed but the roughing call was complete shit and the sideline interference call was even more complete shit. Even the TV crew said you have to warn first. No warning, no consideration that it was early in the game, home team is jacked and trying to bring some energy.

    I'm not a Fisch apologist but those penalties were garbage. Yeah, they happen and it didn't determine the outcome but at least those two penalties I don't put on Fisch.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    @DerekJohnson

    If we're talking about hoops, playing for a Natty at Arizona is 100% the goal

    For football, how many years in their history have they had that topped Fisch's 2023 season there?

    You're almost never playing for a national title in football at Arizona …

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,616 Founders Club

    I have my beach read for next summer

    Lot of words to say you're a doog

    I was right when you melted down about Ty and Emmert too

    You're either a UW stooge or you don't know shit about football

    Let me know when this 4 years is up

  • Canadawg
    Canadawg Member Posts: 5,513

    Agree about the Deboer stuff but implying UW doesn't have the money or ability to put together top end talent is dumb. UW is the Ohio State to every other team in the nation that isn't Ohio State or a few other teams

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,616 Founders Club

    UW also had the money to keep DeBoer

    Like Tequilla said they didn't think he was worth it

    UW likes to play poor for some reason

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    UW has money but doesn't have fuck you money

    Compared to the P12 of the world, we were at the upper ends of the money

    In the B10 we're going to have readjust ourselves to what is required to compete at the top end

    I think most probably don't realize how many resources most B10 schools have … UW can obviously compete but we have to up our game to get there

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,152

    I never said DeBoer wasn't worth it

    I said DeBoer had a standing offer on the table … it was reported in excess of $10M prior to the CFP. He refused to sign it. His agent was the same agent as Saban's. You think maybe he had a heads up that that Bama job was coming open and he was their prime target? Do you think DeBoer would have turned Bama down if we offered him $15M/yr? How about $20M?

    I had conversations with people on the inside of the program that had interactions with DeBoer. I had a heads up during the season that retaining DeBoer was going to be a big big challenge.

    My problem with you Race is that you have no problem bitching and bitching and bitching … you very rarely offer up any kind of solutions or direction as to what to do. Your solutions are "win more" and "spend more" … also guessing that you aren't contributing to any of that either.

    And you can stop putting words in my mouth … you've got a shitty history of doing so.

    You also have your history completely wrong …

    I NEVER defended Tyrone … I was very vocal about needing to fire Tyrone

    My "support" for Emmert came in 2 forms: 1) as President the University as a whole was more important than 1 year of football given the pressures coming from Olympia and 2) I was not going to pin the hiring of Tyrone on him given that that's the ADs job not the President … if you want to be critical of Turner and his role of not sending him to the moon I would have no issue with that criticism.

    I'd offer to send you lube to go fuck yourself with but it'd be a waste of money since you aren't feeling anything anyway