Happy End of Summer (for those that celebrate) !!


Praise Allah summer is over and the kids are back in school! I fucking hate summer and all parenting chaos that it creates. For those of you childless cat ladies not in the know, summer kid child care scheduling (i.e., all the different camps, etc) is a huge pain in the anose hole.
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I like the summer. The weather is nice.
My wife stays at home with the kids so we don't have to deal with trying to find babysitting options all summer long. I highly recommend this arrangement.
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The trad wife lifestyle in this economy? Christ.
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We don't take trips to Denmark with the kids, but the tradeoff is worth it at this time.
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@MrsSnow has expensive tastes and I'm just a pour that can't bring home that level of bacon. It's hard.
That being said, looking across my peer group, it's pretty hard to find the 1 income family these days. It's just not as common as it used to be. My mom was stay at home until we all went off to college.
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Cat lady/resident Swifty here. Probably the best part of being so with this shit is I can usually not use any vacation during the summer and just enjoy things locally and then take actual vacation and go places in September-December when they are super cheap and not crowded because kids just went back to school.
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Summer ends 9/21/25
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I've never liked to solstice based seasons.
REAL Summer is June- Aug.
REAL Fall is Sep - Nov
REAL Winter is DEC- FEB
REAL Spring is MAR- MAY
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It’s 100 degrees on Lake CDA this moment.
That’s summer.
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REAL summer in Seattle-area is July 5 to late-September.
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Early fall is just hotter than in used be. TITTT, Pal.
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Solstice Superiority Guys heard from
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Technically, Fall is an equinox.
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Same difference. They are all astronomical cycles. For seasons I go off the vibes.
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Go make enough money so that your wife can stay at home and take care of them then?
There's a fucking school strike going on where I live and I don't even care.
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We got A LOT of overhead, bud.
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Yeah I'm familiar with the "We have a massive house in Happy Valley with a bunch of kids and now we both have to hustle until we're 70" couples.
It's really great to be around that and hear that kind of complaining.
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Oh we'll be retired by our early 60's god willing. And our housing cost is pretty low relative to household income in spite of living in an expensive zip code. Just saying life starts to get expensive when you factor in 2 kids, college savings, travel sports ball, 4 x skiing season passes, all the gear, fancy vacations, etc.
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If I still lived in Oregon, which I was forced out when I got married, I'd probably be living in some shit hole like Lebanon or Damascus so I can both talk shit to quooks at Bent Shovel Brewing and not kill myself in the hamster wheel for the next 30.
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There's more than one way to skin a cat here @haie . It's just a matter of priorities.
For our family to live off my income alone, we'd be living in Redmond, OR and not Bend. MrsSnow would be driving a gently used Libaru instead of a new Audi. Family vacation would be the Oregon Coast vs Copenhagen and Tahiti (we've done both in 2025). I'd be listening to music on shitty Sonos system like @CFetters_Nacho_Lover instead of spending my all my dough on vinyl.
Hamster wheel of death it is for the Yella Clan!!
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Got damn, this thread has lifted my spirits immensely…I do not envy what you youngsters are going through. I was in the grinder for 30 years (as was my bride), got the girls thru grad school, damn near have the house paid off. There were several lean years, no vacations, almost no discretionary spending, everything pretty tight.
I am turning 65 next week, and in November we will begin a 6 month walk on the beach, hopefully gaining some much needed perspective along the way.
I do not come here to brag, but to confirm that it can be done. We lost our asses (twice) in RE, and once in the market. I still can’t believe we made it to this point, but here we are…csb -
Pretty hard to fuck up being a boomer ! Most cushy generation in US history.
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Well, other than that whole Nam thing.
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Nam was an early boomer thing. But still, pretty good economics for achieving the American Dream as a boomer.
My dad bought a house 3 blocks from the ocean in Huntington Beach, CA on a $25,000 salary in 1979. That’s $103,000 in 2025 USD. My mom didn’t work. Axe @UW_Doog_Bot if that’s doable today. -
Yep. Dad was an engineer and mom was at home. We had money, but my old man was born in 1917, and grew up thru the depression, so he never wanted to spend it. The only vacations we ever took was driving to Texas every summer to see family. I’ve got some of that stinginess, and it has served me well to this point. I never took a proper vacation until I was 40, and have been on the go ever since.
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That kinda sounds like hell to me. We keep some of our discretionary fun for the leisure of mom and dad and omit the kids going on our big vacations. They're probably also much younger than your kids, though.
The two things I've learned from watching other families in the same ballpark as us are:
- Travel sports will never happen in the Anus household. Don't care how good any of my boys end up being at a sport.
- Kids can take out loans for school if they want to go. Make them think twice about how they go into debt. Worked fine for me. Don't get a shitty degree.