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Your import tax goes from around 5% to 15% on most goods

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  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,843

    So the 15% tariff is an attempt to negatively reinforce the EU into easing the VAT and corporate setup situation?

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,303 Founders Club

    Prior to this European companies could ship in goods into the US with no tariff and no US income tax on profits. Europe seems to be pissed at the new deal. Since US consumers pay all tariffs, seems strange to have any sort of opinion.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,843

    Well, whether or not anybody is pissed or it's unfair or whatever, I don't see a major change in VAT… they love it there. The result for the time being is getting stuck with a new Trump tax/tariff/fee/levy and net tax 25% or so in Washington. Maybe you can make a long term argument that things will even out, maybe not. But it is still going to increase prices and inflation.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,635 Founders Club

    We need more taxes - H

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,303 Founders Club

    Lol, they love their VAT? Why? Consumers ultimately pay the full VAT in the end and don’t really have an opinion. Business has to keep track of inputs and outputs and remit along the way. Only governments love VAT because they get a good chunk of their sales tax upfront and it’s the business that gets stuck with the carrying cost of the governments money.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,843

    I met a woman once in Sweden who had no problem with high taxes. The Swedes manage that better.

    But I meant "they" = government.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,303 Founders Club

    VAT blows. I setup a company in Germany years ago, reason was we had some strong leads on European business, mostly in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. Those sales came through and found a local manufacturer to make the product. They charged VAT on every unit and they would remit to the government. Since I had a German VAT #, anything that I invoiced in Sweden or elsewhere would not have VAT on the invoice and they wouldn’t pay for it. So I was sitting on a prepaid tax asset from manufacturing bills for which there wouldn’t be any easy way to offset unless I was invoicing German customers. Germany then audits me because I haven’t paid them much of anything myself and they think I’m avoiding paying them what I have collected from my customers. Had to go through a two year VAT audit where every BOL had to be printed and shown that it was not being shipped in Germany. End of the audit was no finding and they paid me back what I was unable to offset.

    Fuck Germany, fuck Europe. Fuck VAT.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,495 Founders Club
    edited July 28

    We have customers that did exactly that in France when all that was getting shoved down everybody's throats in ~2021.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,495 Founders Club

    Not to mentioned how systems had to start supporting mapping vat/ioss values off of business rules and nobody was set up to support that at the time. It's only Enterprise customers that actually go in and set it all up without turning it into a giant mess.

  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,495 Founders Club

    Yeah the handoff from the markets to every other fucking secondary-market, shipping and tracking system...

    "They love it there" 😂