Tariffs cost GM 1 billion dollars

Here is an ChatGPT report. TL/DR, America sedans are basically ~dead but the Japanese are still hanging on.

Conclusion: From 2015 to 2024, U.S. sedan sales for models like the Accord, Camry, Fusion, and Malibu have trended decisively downward, with occasional bumps from new models or abnormal events. The dominance of SUVs in American preferences cannot be overstated – it fundamentally reshaped automakers’ lineups and consumers’ choices. Sedans went from the default family car to an increasingly niche product in less than a decade. Among the four sedans analyzed, two (Fusion and Malibu) belonged to manufacturers that largely walked away from the segment, resulting in massive sales drops and the Fusion’s demise. The other two (Camry and Accord) illustrate how Japanese automakers managed to retain significant volume by continuously updating their sedans and catering to remaining demand, though not without losses of their own.

Going forward, the midsize sedan segment in the U.S. is a fraction of its former size – but it is not entirely dead. The Camry and Accord still sell in the hundreds of thousands and often top reliability and owner satisfaction rankings, suggesting a loyal customer base. Manufacturers may also see sedans as a platform for economical hybrids and future EVs (a counterpoint to heavy, less efficient SUVs). Indeed, as of 2024 the Camry is expected to get a new generation soon, and Chevrolet hints at a next-gen Malibu, possibly electriccarscoops.com. In summary, U.S. sedan sales 2015–2024 show a clear declining trend with periodic rebounds tied to new models or supply changes. The rise of SUVs and consequent manufacturer strategy shifts (like Ford’s and GM’s exits) were the driving forces behind these trends, reshaping the American automotive landscapewashingtonpost.comwardsauto.com. Sedans have lost their once-dominant position, but the remaining models continue to evolve – pointing to a future where sedans may endure as specialized, tech-rich alternatives rather than mass-market stars.

Sources: This report is based on authoritative sales data from automakers and industry trackers (e.g. GoodCarBadCar yearly sales figuresgoodcarbadcar.net), as well as analysis from automotive publications and news (Washington Post, The Autopian, GM Authority, Carscoopscarscoops.com, WardsAutowardsauto.comwardsauto.com, etc.). These sources provide insight into year-over-year changes, redesign impacts, and the strategic decisions that influenced U.S. sedan sales trends. Each model’s journey over 2015–2024 illustrates a facet of the broader narrative: the once-mighty sedan segment adapting to a new reality in America’s car market.

No, the Fusion was only 10k final year, years ago… Ford cars have been junk since the 70s at least, so that's no loss. The Accords and Camrys are still selling in the 200k to 300k range.

Cucky wrong everywhere and everytime!

They've got us now!

Fusion 110k. That 10k number is leftover units sold the year after production ended.

Accord and Camry sales are both are declining with Accord well under 200k in 2024.

Why would anybody buy a sedan if they have a family? Pointless vehicle to own in that situation.

People that still say this about American cars haven't driven one or bought one in 20 years. If you base this off of some shitty Ford Escape or other rental car models than I guess you have a point. Could say the same about the worst vehicle I've ever driven which was a Toyota Rav-4.

All cars are shit now. The emission requirements have destroyed the auto industry. So much added equipment that the engines are compromised. Basically every manufacturer has significant engine problems and transmission problems. The systems are complex cause a lot of added engine heat, break down and are very expensive to repair. The insanity just keeps getting pushed along to meet mileage and emissions requirements.

Nope.

Idc I still want a 73 Trans Am.

Talking longevity and reliability or so I thought. Coyote is a complex pig.

Let’s see.

Much better USA trade friendly deal with Japan. Check.

Much better trade deal with the EU. Check.

Does anyone believe that there won’t be a better US trade deal with China soon?

Can’t wait to hear how this is bad for the US.