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Trump = Democrat.
6 months in, no mass deportations. Instead he bombs Iran. The Adelson’s half billion won the heart of Trump. Foreign money meant more to Trump than his base. What happened to America First?
Hit big beautiful bill is one massive TURD.
What a failure. Only adding to the deficit and DOGE was a massive THUD.
Trump the chump. MAGA = suckers.
Vance is owned by Thiel.
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Impressive return.
So the violence we have seen for the last 3 weeks by democrats whining about ICE was all about nothing? If ICE wasn't doing their legal duty getting illegals out of the country, what are rats so pissed about?
In case you didn't know (you clearly don't), the border is closed. No illegals crossing, no rapists, gang members or murderers moving next door.
I guess the hundreds of lawsuits by rats against the administration means he is a "democrat"?
DOGE exposing the corruption of democrats, the shutting down of corrupt democrats funding their own unaccountable organizations with American tax dollars doesn't ring a bell?
Seriously, have you been in a fucking cave for the past 6 months?
Doge had a goal two trillion. The
His deportation average is the same as Biden’s around 400 a day. The MSM just highlights it now. Wake up.
The border is certainly improved and no woke stuff. Which is great but bombing in the Middle East has been great for us since shock and awe.
he Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), initiated by the second Trump administration in 2025, has reported various figures for savings in government spending, but these claims are heavily disputed and lack consistent verification. According to the DOGE website, as of June 8, 2025, they claimed savings of $180 billion, comprising $34 billion from 11,042 contract terminations, $44 billion from 15,198 grant terminations, and $211 million from 485 lease terminations. However, earlier figures reported by DOGE fluctuated significantly, with claims ranging from $55 billion in February to $160 billion by April 20, 2025.
Independent analyses and media investigations have raised serious doubts about these numbers. For instance, a BBC Verify analysis found that only $61.5 billion of the $175 billion claimed by May 29, 2025, was itemized, with evidence for just $32.5 billion in savings. The New York Times reported that DOGE’s “wall of receipts” contained billion-dollar errors, such as an $8 billion ICE contract cut that was actually worth $8 million, and some claimed savings were for contracts canceled before DOGE’s existence. NPR noted that over a third of listed contract terminations would yield no savings, and actual savings might be as low as $2 billion. Additionally, a nonpartisan estimate by the Partnership for Public Service suggested that DOGE’s actions, including paid leave and rehiring costs, could cost taxpayers $135 billion, offsetting much of the claimed savings. The Internal Revenue Service projected a $323 billion revenue loss over a decade due to DOGE-driven staff cuts.
Critics argue that DOGE’s cuts, targeting areas like DEI programs, USAID, and the Department of Education, were driven more by political ideology than fiscal prudence, with federal spending in 2025 still rising by 5% compared to 2024. Total federal spending in April 2025 was $594 billion, up $27 billion from April 2024, with increases in Social Security, Medicare, and defense spending overshadowing DOGE’s efforts.
Given the discrepancies, lack of transparency, and countervailing costs, DOGE’s actual savings are likely far lower than claimed, potentially in the range of $2 billion to $61.5 billion at most, with significant economic trade-offs. Without comprehensive, verified data, a precise figure remains elusive.
Trump Deportations (2025)
• Total Deportations (January 20–May 2025): By May 3, 2025, ICE reported approximately 72,000 removals since January 26, 2025, averaging 736 per day, slightly below Biden’s FY 2024 daily average of 742.
• Monthly Trends:
• February 2025: ~11,000 deportations, lower than Biden’s ~12,000 in February 2024.
• April 2025: ~17,200 deportations, a 29% increase over Biden’s ~13,300 in April 2024, marking the first month Trump surpassed Biden’s pace.
• Context: Trump’s administration prioritized interior enforcement, with ICE arrests doubling to ~23,000 in February 2025 compared to Biden’s monthly averages. However, deportations lagged due to limited detention space (41,500 beds) and fewer border crossings (down 95% from Biden’s peak). By April, ICE added 47 detention facilities and increased deportation flights (from 4–4.5 to 6–6.5 per day).
• Claims vs. Reality: Trump’s administration claimed 139,000 deportations by April 28, 2025, and surpassing Biden’s FY 2024 total, but these figures were exaggerated. Actual removals were about half the claimed amount, and Biden’s 272,000 FY 2024 removals remained higher.
Comparison
• Volume: Biden’s total deportations (4.4 million over four years) far exceed Trump’s 2025 figures (~72,000 through May). Even in FY 2024 alone, Biden’s 271,000 deportations outpace Trump’s five-month total in 2025.
• Pace: Trump’s daily deportation rate in 2025 (736) is slightly below Biden’s FY 2024 rate (742), but April 2025 showed an uptick, suggesting a potential acceleration.
• Focus:
• Biden: Emphasized border removals (82% of FY 2024 deportations), with fewer interior enforcement actions due to resource allocation and policy constraints.
• Trump (2025): Shifted to interior enforcement, targeting criminals and non-criminals alike, with arrests up 111% over Biden’s FY 2024 monthly average. Deportations of non-criminals rose slightly (e.g., 390 in February 2025 vs. 223 in December 2024).
• Challenges:
• Biden: Strained by record border arrivals and limited ICE resources (6,000 deportation officers for 7.7 million cases).
• Trump: Constrained by detention capacity and diplomatic hurdles in deporting to certain countries, though mitigated by new facilities and military support.
Notes
• Data Limitations: Trump’s 2025 figures are incomplete, covering only January–May. Biden’s numbers include Title 42 expulsions, which inflate totals but differ from formal deportations.
• Policy Impact: Biden’s deportations surged in response to border pressures, while Trump’s 2025 efforts focus on interior enforcement and deterrence (e.g., ending “catch-and-release”).
• Disputed Claims: X posts and Trump’s team exaggerated 2025 deportation figures (e.g., claiming 139,000 by April), while some Biden supporters overstated his totals without context (e.g., 4.4 million includes expulsions).
Conclusion
Biden’s administration deported significantly more people overall (4.4 million, including expulsions) than Trump has in 2025 (~72,000 through May). However, Trump’s pace increased by April 2025, surpassing Biden’s monthly total for the first time, driven by interior enforcement and expanded resources. If sustained, Trump’s 2025 deportations could approach Biden’s FY 2024 levels, but they remain far below Biden’s full-term totals.
Retard Jimmy copy/pasting AI is peak TugTard.
Return of the Whack.
two weeks away! Since 92’!
Need to compare apples to apples. Trump's deportations are actual deportations of illegals living in the US. barry changed the definition of deportation and if you are turned away at the border that was a "deportation". That's why barry fake number are better than Bush II or Trump's. Border is closed and there are few turn aways.
When you ignore the actual facts on the ground I just assume you are a leftard hack. Works every time. This was on the dementia patients watch. He lied and said he needed legislation to close the border. Sort of a 1D move in retrospect.
if they farm or work at hotels they can stay!
At least try to keep up
Is really any different than h copy pasta'ing MSNBC or buck repeating what he read on reddit?
Buck is the worst poster in HH history. Didn’t know Reddit was still around.
The Trump cope will only continue. Sad.
Yes it is sad that the cabal running the dementia patient lost the November election. Open borders, tax increases, do nothing on unfair trade, sexually mutilate minors, stuff men in women's bathrooms and jails and provide more US tax dollars for illegal aliens and do nothing about government waste and fraud except provide even more money to grifting democrats. Sad?
Dementia Joe and co are scum of the earth. Beyond vile. Trump = Clinton that’s all.
Dude’s still taking medals girls. The libs are deeply sick.
Remember when bubba had a chance to take out Bin Laden and he didn't. Trump is nothing like Clinton. Clinton signed welfare reform because Newt rammed it down his throat until Carville told him to sign it. Clinton is like Trump if you define like as not like the dementia patient cabal. Not one dem in Congress is supporting the ending of the fraud in medicare and medicaid. Not one support the clean up of the social security rolls by DOGE.
Dems on deportation.