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Blue states dumbing down their students

BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,775 Standard Supporter

No big surprise, but still its alarming how states like WA and OR just don't seem to care that their students are failing the basics. Test score averages are sinking fast over the last 10 woke years. Dumb voters equals success for the liberal elites.

Great job rats!

Blue States Used to Lead in Education. Not Anymore

Not long ago, blue states typically outperformed red ones when it came to education. That is changing. Blue states like Oregon and Washington experienced significant drops in reading and math scores for both fourth- and eighth-graders between 2015 and 2024, worse than the national declines during the same period. Mississippi, meantime, gained five points in fourth-grade reading and math and held steady in eighth-grade performance. Louisiana also maintained its scores, defying the negative national trends.

Whether you call it the “Mississippi Miracle” or the “Southern Surge,” Republican-led states are rapidly improving student outcomes relative to blue states, thanks to a series of substantive reforms over the past decade.

Republican-led state governments have implemented evidence-based reading curricula, banned ineffective teaching methods, and improved school safety. In contrast, Democrat-led states have undermined school discipline, reduced academic standards, and embraced policies that deemphasize achievement in favor of ideological goals.

The most important factor driving this divide has been the progressive push for “equity.” In practice, equity has meant eliminating honors classes, lowering grading standards, and loosening classroom discipline. Avoiding this ideological approach, red states have taken the lead on evidence-based reforms.

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 47,346 Standard Supporter

    The only solution is to raise taxes.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 111,963 Founders Club

    When colleges are teaching remedial reading there may be a problem

    U dint eevn go to skool bro

  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,229 Swaye's Wigwam

    The population increased and there has been inflation though. Can’t overcome that.

  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,795 Swaye's Wigwam

    I'd venture the remedial English is for foreign students, who, somehow scored near perfect scores on exams to get into the school. Grade inflation for foreign $$$tudents especially in courses that require writing, is substantial.

  • BendintheriverBendintheriver Member Posts: 6,775 Standard Supporter

    Unfortunately, that is not the case. I truly wish it was. I have a friend who's daughter was near the top of the class. She scored horribly on the SAT (they paid 1000's for her to learn how to take the test and increase her score which she did) and then was told she needed remedial math and writing skills when she got to college. The girl is not embarrassed and has dove into the learning to improve herself and move on, but her parents are pissed and on a mission to warn other parents.

  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,795 Swaye's Wigwam

    No that's true too. I got a buddy who teaches writing in college and bemoans when foreign students enroll in his classes. He's had to change many a grade based on pressure from Administration.

    Got another buddy who absolutely struggled with Math, so he went to community College and worked on it and worked on it. It took a physics class for the light bulb to turn on, and then Math became a breeze. Ended up in engineering grad school a few years later. Wild /funny part is his brother was a physics professor.

  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 25,258 Founders Club

    I have a friend who is a professor at UC Riverside last I checked (we haven't talked much since the Scamdemic….).

    Back in the 2010s, I remarked about how kids in the UC system shouldn't need remedial anything and their writing ought to be at least adequate and at a 12th grade level. He's very liberal and pulled dodge, defend, and deflect mode. Maybe if major cities like Miami and Hell A weren't 35 or 40% foreigners, or at least foreign heads of households. Maybe if California didn't have 2,700,000 ill eagles…

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,986 Standard Supporter

    More about Bend's post:

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    Liberals are always engaging in primitive cargo-cult thinking. Here's what these assholes thought: They saw that kids who were very good at reading did not use phonics to read words, but rather just recognized them in a glance.

    So they reasoned: If the smart kids are just reading words "whole" at a glance, that must be what we must teach our slower-readers to do!

    It apparently never occurred to them that fast readers had all gone through the phonics sounding-out process, but at an earlier age than their peers.

    And then, after reading for a couple of years before even getting to first grade -- yes, they then were reading words by sight (at least the ones that were already stored in their memory's word-bank). They stopped using phonics not because phonics wasn't useful, but because they eventually outgrew it.

    These geniuses similarly noticed that kids who were good at math sometimes didn't use the standard algorithms for doing multiplication and division, but instead used little tricks to manipulate the numbers to make calculation faster and easier.

    Once again: These kids all used the standard techniques of memorization and long-form multiplication and division first, then, as they became proficient, they began realizing on their own that there were quick tricks for doing calculations. Like, if you want to divide by 10, just move the decimal point one place to the left.

    But these geniuses again decided that because the smarter kids were figuring out these shortcuts, then we should skip teaching kids the standard algorithms for calculation and just teach them the tricks.

    And that's why parents are unable to help their kids with math any longer-- Parents all know the standard algorithms, and are ready to teach it, but when their kids come home they're told do weird stuff the parents haven't seen before.

    Which is another big thing stupid liberals don't realize: Teachers set the pace of learning in classrooms, but it's actually parents who do the bulk of the actual teaching at home. So if you make up random nonsense to "teach" kids math, you are cutting the main teachers of math, the parents, out of the equation.

    I hate the Educrats. They are constantly churning out New and Stupid Techniques both to justify their phoney-baloney jobs and also to provide excuses for why low-performing teachers are unable to teach kids.

    See, it's not the incompetent teachers' fault -- it's the fault of The System! We can fire The System and keep all the incompetent teachers on the payroll!

    This is such a standard bureaucratic dodge it ought be be criminalized. They never want to fire incompetent bureaucrats, just fire the old "system" (or "procedures" or "trainings").

    The old system (and procedures, and teachings) usually work.

    But no system works in the hands of an incompetent.

    Read the whole thing. Red states are also making it easier to remove disruptive students from the classroom, whereas blue states are making it impossible to do so, thus guaranteeing that those few disruptive students won't be the only ones leaving the school entirely uneducated. All the students they kept from learning will also graduate with a moron-level intellect.

  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 7,220 Standard Supporter
    edited June 20

    @DuckDan, infamous Oregon teacher union rep who posted nonstop on the Shed until he lost his job, didn’t want black kids in Oakland to be educated the “white way.”

    Great plan, ShitLibs Dan.

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