Trump tariffs ruled illegal
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As a taxpayer I see value in tariffs
I see no value in 80 cents a gallon to herd unicorns
Nor in property taxes out of control
Or an income tax
Even if we accept the retarded premise that a tariff is a tax so what?
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According to Bob's smoke and mirrors hand-waving, there is no tax at all, just a fee! Then all is made well by his snobbish insistence on the principle of elasticity. All I did was point out the silliness of this argument, that in fact the tariffs will be paid (generally 100% by the US importer unless negotiated otherwise).
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You were previously all in on them being paid by the consumer. Seems like you have conceded to my smoke and mirrors.
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Bob…. it's a big tariff spend. That's what it is. Money paid to Mr Trump. That's what has happened.
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I know how they work and that wasn't the flipping question!
Why can everyone tariff our products but we can't tariff any other countries. Explain how that's right or fair! Now fuck off!
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Again, what is the functional difference between AOG and a chicom lobbyist? America Last.
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It's magnitude… your argument might carry some persuasive power if you prepared a legit table. Traditionally tariffs are used sparingly. Nobody really just flat out blows the roof off of the world with them like your Dear Leader is trying to do on the lunatic plan that it will restore the Rust Belt.
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In a free and competitive global market tariffs would be paid by the consumer.
The global market isn't a free one. It is quite distorted.
It's also lopsidedly competitive with the US market demand being irreplaceable and global supply being hyper competitive.
That's pretty much what Trump is relying on, companies and nations will subsidize supply into the US market(as China has done for decades and Japan before them). If they won't someone else will.
You can argue the point of US consumer demand being irreplaceable but the mechanics of the tariff plan are sound.
Simply sticking to the "consumers pay tariffs" argument without acknowledging there's an economic basis for the counter argument is quite...simple.
Scott Besent passed economics 471 and 472 I'm sure.
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What bullshit! Even you don't believe that! We charge those that place tariffs on our goods. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. You are so full of shit it's ridiculous.
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Still looking for any tax whatsoever that AOG has a problem with
Autstically repeating tariffs are a tax while throwing shit at the wall isn't that effective
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The minute Asian governments stop subsidizing their industries and currencies is when those governments are done for. I agree that they will keep doing it even if it means bigger and bigger losses.
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Much like Russia with Ukraine I'm ok watching the CCP go down in flames trying to recapture the former glory of TEMU.
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how dare you!
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I like to call Hakeem Jeffries Temu Obama
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We collected 24 billion in tarrifs for may. Just another record!
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Per Scott Besent of the 30% tariffs passed on China before, 0.07% of that cost was passed onto the consumer.
The plan is a baseline 10%, I think we can live with 0.02% added to inflation if it helps to resolve the deficit. Better than the Biden plan.
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$2 trillion deficits are far more inflationary than tariffs.
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Keep drinking the kool aid guys -
Speaking of Jim Jones he was a big friend of Harvey Milk and Milk helped him recruit in the poor and black neighborhoods and helped Jim kill them all
As for you AOG you have several unanswered questions on the table and you continue to bleat that tariffs are taxes tariffs are taxes tariffs are taxes
Why would anyone take you seriously?
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Resorts to ad hominem. Ironic attack as well.
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Taken seriously on the Tug? Surely you jest.
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Hey guess what? You're the joke
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Nothing screams lack of self-awareness like a leftard.
"If you've been playing poker for half an hour and you still don't know who the patsy is, you're the patsy."
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This after I soundly defeated Bob yesterday and his illusory ideas about elasticity.
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lol good one.
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AOG: Elasticity begone!
And then like magic, AOG thinks it disappeared.
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Just like the leftists are doing with the Cho Bai Den years!
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Holy shit. 🤣
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They are so broken.