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HHusky
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The incoherence of the so-called "conservative philosophers" of the Tug is well illustrated by the fact that the actual philosophers of the conservative movement abhor their emperor and love interest. A report on the recent Cato Institute gathering:

“We will always oppose when a policy is moving in a direction that contradicts these principles,” Goettler said. “When the President disappears people without due process, or enacts extra-legal tariffs that threaten business and prosperity around the world, or targets individual law firms for retribution and calls into great danger to the rule of law, we’ll stick to our principles, speak out, push back, and oppose it.”

The free-market fanboys and libertarian aficionados have spent almost a half century decrying the exact meddling that Trump is now engaging in. A hands-off-the-market approach has been sacrosanct for these wonks. Lost on no one was the fact that Koch was in town—a rare visit, really—to accept the 2025 Milton Friedman Prize for Advancing Liberty, named in honor of the economist who was pretty strident in his opposition to tariffs.

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  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,996

    "disappears people" HA HA HA!

    Sending them back where they came from is considered "disappearing" them. Drama queen much hh?

    I don't seem to remember any sanctimonious weeping by you or anyone in the Cato Institute when the Jan 6'ers were denied due process. Or when Trump wasn't allowed to have representation present when rats were trying to railroad him.

    I think we all know you and your fellow rats see this as a wedge issue that you can use against Trump. You idiots don't care at all about the people, its all politics. It's been that way in your party for decades.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005

    Fuck that. Someone trespasses into my yard and sets up camp, they can GTFO out. There is no fucking due process unless you consider staring down the barrel of a Remington due process.

    If they want to discuss legally entering my property and making arrangements for proper establishment of residence, quite willing to entertain mutually beneficial arrangements.

    Free market is not anarchy, you dumb fuck. Sovereign nations have a right to determine who gets to set foot on their soil.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,870

    rabble offended by the milton friedman acolytes

    oh well

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,005
    edited May 2

    Perhaps you need Buck to help you read:

    Free market is not anarchy, you dumb fuck. Sovereign nations have a right to determine who gets to set foot on their soil.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,902 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2

    A senator had margaritas with the guy who was “disappeared.”

    Four other House members got a paid vacation to El Salvador for the wife-beating gangbanger.

    You know who did “disappear?” 300,000ish children after crossing the open border. Biden stopped DNA testing for many of them.

    Welcome back, you fucking loser.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,902 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2

    A personal favorite of mine was when you tried to quote Milton Friedman on China tariffs in 2017 on The Shed and got your ass handed to you. Even Biden kept them, it worked so well.

    Copy/paste. That’s you.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter

    Disappearing is what should happen to many of these shitbag invaders but it hasn't. Dazzler making shit up again.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
    edited May 2

    Biden is sharp as a tack - sycophants

    No one here cares about the managed opposition of a bullshit conservative movement that stood silent while the US was invaded and want to cry now about the law throwing them out

    Fuck off Alice

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter

    Functional difference between America Lasters, the dazzler and the NY Slimes. US dumping ground for IP stealing, chicom crud originator and trade barrier chicoms? God forbid the chicoms switch to dumping in Europe. That is untenable.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    NY Times is Concerned About China Dumping Subsidized Goods on Europe Due to Trump’s Tariffs

    —Buck Throckmorton

    The New York Times has excoriated President Trump for trying to disengage the US economy from our mercantilist reliance on cheap Chinese goods. But for all its enmity toward Trump and his trade policies, the Times is concurrently worried that Europe might find itself in an unfavorable trade relationship with China – a trade relationship like the awful one from which President Trump is trying to extract the U.S.

    Other than being driven by intense, partisan animus toward Donald Trump, it seems inexplicable that the paper of record would be concerned about Europe surrendering economic sovereignty to China, while at the same time being passionately opposed to America exerting its own economic sovereignty. Isn’t the Times being hypocritical?

    No, the NY Times is not being hypocritical. It is very consistent in being rabidly anti-American. Therefore, being concerned about Europe retaining an industrial economy while cheering against American industry is quite principled for the voice of the left. It may be vulgar and offensive, but it’s consistent with the Times’ America-Last principles.

    First off, here are some of the typical recent headlines the NY Times has been running as it contemptuously covers Trump’s economic agenda:

    “Trump’s Tariffs Will Wound Free Trade” [NY Times – 4/14/2025]

    “Why Trump’s Economic Disruptions Will be Hard to Reverse” [NY Times – 4/28/2025]

    “Trump’s Tariffs Prompt Wave of Lawsuits as States and Businesses Fight Back” [NY Times – 4/27/2025]

    “Bracing for a Slow-Moving, Self-Inflicted Economic Storm” [NY Times – 4/25/2025]

    But amidst those stories blasting “Trump’s tariffs” and his efforts to rebuild American industry, the Times ran this story:

    “Why Europe Fears a Flood of Cheap Goods from China; President Trump’s tariffs on China could lead to a hazardous scenario for European countries: the dumping of artificially cheap products that could undermine local industries.” [NY Times - 4/14/2025]

    Just a quick fisking of that headline and sub-headline is revealing.

    Europe fears a flood of cheap Goods from China.” I don’t blame them, because a flood of cheap Chinese goods has done great harm to America.

    A hazardous scenario for European countries: The dumping of artificially cheap products that could undermine local industries.” Correct! China dumping artificially cheap products on America has undermined local American industries. What is so telling is that the Times is OK with cheap, subsidized products undermining American industries, and they want it to continue. Their concern is that Donald Trump may make it impossible for China to dump on us any longer, and that China may start dumping on Europe instead. That is a problem to the NY Times.

    Here is some of the body of that story.

    China has for years presented an economic challenge for Europe. Now, it could become an economic disaster. 

    It produces a vast array of artificially cheap goods 

    — heavily subsidized electric vehicles, consumer electronics, toys, commercial grade steel and more — 

    but much of that trade was destined for the endlessly voracious American marketplace.

    Per the Times, it’s OK for China to dump subsidized goods on the U.S. because we have a “voracious” marketplace. Their fear is that Europe might also have a voracious appetite for goods subsidized by a 

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028

    H invoking Milton Friedman. Belly laughs.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638

    By all credible accounts there was no drinking of anything but water in the meeting with the Maryland man and senator. That was just a prop introduced to gullible people like Chrissy.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    Jimmy Olsen with the scoop. By all accounts he only trafficked less than 10 victims and only beat up the wife a few times

    Love is in the air

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter

    When I say ankle biting this is what I mean. No margaritas means the Maryland Man should go free and get back to human trafficking and beating up women. I guess we can figure out at least one AOG priority. Driving a bunch of illegal aliens across country in his "bosses car", who was a noted Tren De Aragua gang member, with $1,400 in cash with no valid driver's license is ignored by AOGs the dementia patient's ICE because apparently the smoking gun of a margarita wasn't found. Geezus.

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/05/02/bombshell-body-cam-footage-destroys-everything-democrats-said-about-abrego-garcia-n4939430

    Bombshell Body Cam Footage Destroys Everything Democrats Said About Abrego Garcia

    The left's latest manufactured martyr just got exposed as exactly what conservatives suspected he is all along. Newly released body cam footage shows Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the illegal immigrant whom Democrats have been desperately trying to paint as just an innocent "Maryland dad," was stopped in 2022 under suspicion of human trafficking.

    Fox News Digital obtained damning body camera footage from the Tennessee Highway Patrol showing troopers pulling over Abrego Garcia for a routine speeding violation — but this was no ordinary traffic stop. He was behind the wheel of a vehicle linked to a convicted human smuggler. Inside the car were eight other individuals, all male, packed in with no explanation. 

    This was no family road trip.

    "How many rows have you got in here? Four seats? Four rows of seats?" a state trooper can be heard saying. "Did y'all put an extra one in? Huh? Did y'all put another one in? No? They come like this? I've never seen one with that many seats in it."

    "He's hauling these people for money," one state trooper said.

    A source familiar with the situation told Fox News Digital that there was a conversation in the redacted portion of the video where state troopers discussed calling U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The troopers called ICE, which didn't come to pick up Abrego-Garcia.

    The source added that when state troopers entered Abrego-Garcia's name into the National Crime Information Center, a warning appeared that showed he was suspected of being a gang member or terrorist.

    In the video, a state trooper noted that Abrego Garcia was carrying $1,400 in cash, which may have been his cut for the job. Another trooper pointed out that Abrego Garcia’s Maryland driver’s license was invalid. 

    Ordinarily, when someone’s behind the wheel of a car crammed with illegal migrants, carrying a wad of cash, and driving on a bogus license, that should set off every alarm bell. But under Biden’s ICE, that wasn’t enough to warrant action. They never even bothered to pick him up. He was promptly back on the street.

    And let’s not forget the domestic violence angle that Democrats are all too happy to ignore. Before being deported to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia’s own wife had taken out multiple restraining orders over alleged beatings. This is the man they’re holding up as some kind of victim? With everything we now know about their so-called “Maryland dad,” Democrats haven’t just backed the wrong guy; they’ve made absolute fools of themselves.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638
    edited May 2

    Yeah, for the 5 billionth time it makes no difference how much of an asshole he was, if he beat up his wife, what his fucking tattoos are, if he had a margarita and 1.4 grand in cash… since he was under judge's orders.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club

    Wrong for the 5 billionth time

    You don't want anyone deported and are willing to die on the hill of a human trafficker who came here illegally

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,028

    Lulz, your championship of due process and rule of law over the last four years died of neglect.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter

    12 million plus non-vetted illegal aliens admitted into the US in violation of US immigration laws and AOG voted to continue that policy. And now he has this great concern that we can't deport an illegal alien gang banger and subject to deportation orders. If you don't support that then the dems think they just need better messaging, not a different message.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter

    AOG probably helps to register them to vote. By nay means necessary is the commie motto.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,902 Standard Supporter

    @AOG hasn't heard the audio of the Maryland Man trafficking a car packed with illegals to Maryland.

    You take so many Ls you may want to reconsider your membership in the Dem cult.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,902 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2

    @AOG also hasn’t heard the audio of Maryland Man’s girlfriend talking about her beating the shit out of her, and the numerous police calls.

    This dipshit votes. Sad

    #BelieveAllWomen

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638
    edited May 2

    It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the argument, it's a straw man (meaning: you did prove something, but it is not the critical point of the argument, just a show/diversion to make you think you win the argument).

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,534 Standard Supporter

    Yes. We proved that 12 million illegals breaking the law with the full support of the dementia patient you voted for and then voted to continue the policies with Headboard is not important to you. One gang banger/wife beater and subject to a deportation order can't be deported by the president because due process demands a Supreme Court decision for every deportation. Stay on that hill dude. We love that message. We won that argument in November.

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,996

    Give aog a break. He is on the lowest rung of goose stepping little people in the democrat party. He clearly has not seen or heard that his elitist scum leaders want all this swept under the rug. They announced on Tuesday that they don't want anyone talking about this anymore.

    Typical of the rat party. They don't give a shit about their little people. You can stop now aog. Defending violent gang members ended up not being something rat leadership could hang Trump on. The polling data on this was a loser for you guys.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638
    edited May 2

    Still does not supercede judge's orders, even if all that is true (it's not). You're wasting time.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,625 Standard Supporter

    The supreme court cannot order anyone outside the country to do anything. You're the one repeating bullshit. Own it.

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638
    edited May 2

    They ordered Trump to facilitate his return. Everybody knows a phone call would work for that. He actually said he could do it and won't. Incidentally, has anyone ever tried to argue with a judge? You don't win. You lose. Always.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,673 Founders Club
  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,996

    Of course its true you dolt. Educate yourself FFS.

    Hakeem Jeffries Reportedly Tells Dems to Stop Supporting Deported 'Maryland Man' [WATCH]

    Hakeem Jeffries Reportedly Tells Dems to Stop Supporting Deported ‘Maryland Man’

    While Jeffries has not publicly criticized the congressional delegations to El Salvador, three sources—including two Democratic aides and one lawmaker—told The Bulwark that the House Minority Leader believes the trips have “run their course.”

    Dems Urged to ‘Slow Down’ Support for Deported Man Accused of Being MS-13 Affiliate

    Dems Urged to ‘Slow Down’ Support for Deported Man Accused of Being MS-13 Affiliate

    Another senior House staffer was quoted as saying, “One trip was sufficient,” referring to Senator Chris Van Hollen’s (D-Md.) visit to El Salvador. The staffer anticipated that repeated Democratic visits to an accused MS-13 member might not look good for the party and would only serve as “fodder for the National Republican Campaign Committee to start using it against other Democrats.” In a comment aimed at congressional Democrats, the staffer added, “They should understand that what they’re doing is going to be hurting us in the long run.”

    Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) also openly questioned the wisdom of his Democratic colleagues flocking to El Salvador. “This is not the right issue to talk about due process. This is not the right case. This is not the right person to be saying that we need to bring him back to the United States,” the Democrat said in a Fox News interview. He added, “Democrats should not take this issue. When you look at immigration, is this the immigration case you want to take to fight on? In my opinion, absolutely no.”

    The Washington Stand previously reported that Democratic Party strategists and consultants have also advised against rallying around Garcia. “People can’t afford eggs, and … you’re flying to sit with someone who’s accused of being in a gang,” one party operative complained. He continued, “We need to step back and wait for someone to be deported who has a really compelling story that’s devastating[,] that Average Joe’s upset about. That person hasn’t presented themselves yet.” Another operative explained that the focus on Garcia is only “giving the White House and the Republicans a lot of images and visuals that they think are compelling for them.”

  • AOG
    AOG Member Posts: 2,638

    Also, not a counter-argument. Insulting me and presenting a variety of related news, some of which is inflammatory, true, doesn't change that Trump willfully has blown off SCOTUS's orders. What that means to those of us who aren't idiots is chilling. It means he thinks HE is authorized to interpret the law.