Butt seriously
When will Trump end daylight savings?
This should be as bipartisan an issue as well developed glutes.
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Year round daylight savings time.
Fuck standard time.
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elbow too bumpy
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This, plus move CDA to Mountain Time Zone!
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It's standard for a reason. Fuck DST.
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As someone that actually is affected at work by DST I frankly don't care Margaret.
Just quit the back and forth faggotry and we will figure it out when to start and when to finish. Places without this idiocy seem to manage.
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I care
4:30 in the morning is early enough. Jobsites start in the dark.
We're not a farm country anymore
Standard is standard
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We start at 3am in Bakersfield because of the heat.
I get your point but it's also completely arbitrary what times things are moved around.
In Alaska we don't have dark during construction season and figure it out.
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Negative ghostrider the pattern is full!
That's all about who does business with whom. N. Idaho does most of it's business with Washington while the south mostly deals with Utah, Montana and Wyoming. I keep wonder about that little chunk of Oregon. That's the strangest time zone.
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Fuck no. Make the People’s Republic of Boise submit to the PDT overlords.
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Pussies. Ya'll acting like you've never crossed into another time zone for, checks notes, VACATION, and lived to tell, and very likely, brag about it. Bitching about 1 hour change is peak soft. "No honey, we couldn't go to Hawaii, its a three hour difference! My sleep schedule!"
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It is kinda fucked in Idaho. S. Idaho is MDT, God's Country is PDT.
I need my 9pm sunsets in the summer to offset the 3:45 dark in the winter.
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I agree, its a unique situation that you see in various states where the incentive to be in the neighboring time zone is reflected due to the relation to of a nearby metro area. Much like how eastern Oregon is in MST due to it's relationship with Boise.
I like the time changes. I actually like it getting dark early during the holidays and the change post holidays is pretty quick. I saw a chart that even without the change, WA gets like 60 minutes of extra daylight in January, and 90 minutes in February. Don't quote me on that. Plus I love the later nights with DST in the Summer. Plus it means the sunlight isn't peaking over the horizon at 3 am, which it would do if we were on standard time. Just what I need is those fucking birds chirping at 3 am instead of 4.
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As a man of the people when it finally gets light in the morning to avoid job site deaths - that you don't care about because you aren't as good as I am - the fucking clock goes back
It is worse now that they moved the jump back up a month. Completely retarded. And who the fuck cares about sunshine at night when you're trying to get to sleep to get up and build America?
And won't someone think about the dead children waiting for a school bus?
I believe that is how to frame an argument to make you opponent literally Hitler
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Work in construction and get back to me.
Sorry you might lose your cab that drinks like a merlow evenings in summer.
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People can joke all they want but we have to have safety meetings and plannings around this. For what reason no one has a legitimate value to give me as the counter argument.
When a dude gets killed or we? blow up a pipeline because the welder was sleep deprived adjusting to the government's cockamemey scheme to "save energy" I get blamed not the government per usual.
Tldr what value does DST add? It sure as shit isn't saving energy if anyone even cares about that anymore.
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Is there no electricity at the site for you know, lights? Lets talk the real reason to get to the site early, beating traffic to and from work. FYI, I've worked in construction. BTW high vis is recommended in dark and light situations. I don't write the rules. I'm certain there are mountains of report of accidents that list "it was dark" as the cause of accident. Whatever would the plumbers, HVAC installers, insulation, and electricians working in already constructed crawl spaces, basements, and attics do?
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Those hammer swingers are working until damned near 9PM here during daylight savings time.
They shut down at 4:30 or maybe 5 in the winter.
Ask the workers if they like 3 hours extra pay in the summer/daylight savings time months.
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Do that at scale. Night time ops are both more risky and more expensive. We do them all the time but that doesn't make them easy. I don't work on HVAC's.
Again, what are the actual benefits of DST?
I enjoyed sitting on the Pacific Rim Brewery having a beer at 10pm sunset as well but that's not a compelling ROI.
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Start/end times just get adjusted. You don't gain or lose any hours.
We work sunrise to sunset whenever that may be.
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Most workplace related deaths in WA and CA are transportation related. For the record in WA, driving home and to the job count as on the job related accidents. The other leading cause of death are falls. There are others such as straight murder. I've been on a job sight in the mid day sun, middle of summer, and shit still happened. If your crew can't get the idea that maybe just go to bed a bit earlier will be of benefit then I don't know what to tell you. It's not that hard to figure out, or as I noted, adjust to. You've done it on vacation, you can do it at work. We are also talking about the construction industry, where it was common among many a contractor to have a beer at meetings, or during lunch.
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Hate the sunset, not the sunset cruisers.
War cocktails on the boat.
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Time change at Lookout Pass was just weird to me every time I used to drive it to and from Portland. Going west on the descent is one of the most beautiful drives in the country, though. Especially if you’re there just after dawn.
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The 345 in winter is why I want Mountain tz
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I saw a clip of some guy on Rogan who said heart attacks increase 20% percent after DST in the spring and decrease 20% in the fall after going back to standard time. Chinteresting stuff. The change is bad. Pick a time and fucking stick with it. I personally hate 3:45 dark in the winter, so I’m team permanent DST.
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kind of a guess, but probably correlates with Boise TV stations
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No DST here.
It is weird having the latest sunset at 7:35, but it's still usually 100 degrees.
