"Illegal crackback block on a defenseless player, with targeting."
The most controversial of the rules changes is that when a player is flagged for targeting and initiating with the crown of the helmet or targeting a defenseless player, the offender will be ejected.Link.
“The rules in of themselves are unchanged, however the penalties have changed,” he said. “If a player is flagged for either one of those fouls, it requires an automatic ejection. If the player is flagged during the first half, then he must sit out the remainder of the game. If the foul occurs during the second half, he must sit out the first half of the next game. Those fouls are automatically reviewed by replay officials. If the call is overturned, the player can be reinstated, but the 15-yard penalty still stands.”
The crown of the helmet is specifically defined as the very top of the helmet. It is legal to hit with any other part of the helmet including the facemask.
Targeting a defenseless player is a little more cut and dried because there are nine types of players that can’t be hit above the shoulders at any point during the game.
Those nine players are: a player in the act of passing; a receiver attempting to catch a pass prior to controlling the ball and making a football move; a kicker in the act of kicking during a kick or return; a returner attempting to catch or return a kick prior to controlling the ball and making a football move; a player obviously out of bounds; a player who receives a blindside block, a ball carrier in the grasp of another player; and, a quarterback anytime after a change of possession.
When determining whether or not a player was targeting another player, Rhoads said there are several keys that he instructs his officials to look for.
“Here is what we look for,” he said. “Did the player leave his feet in an upward thrust? Did he crouch preceding the upward thrust? Did he lead with the helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow? Did he lower his head before attacking in order to initiate with the crown?”
An illegal crack-back block is a block below the waist. Players outside the tackle box (more than seven yards out) or a player in motion cannot block another player below the waist until after the ball is snapped and significant time has run off the clock. After time has run off the clock, any player may be blocked below the waist as long as the blocking player is in front of the player being blocked or is within a 10 o’clock to 2 o’clock zone.
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You suck at this. Grow the hell up and learn the difference between a blindside block and a crack-back block.
Here's the NFL definition of a blindside block that is used by NCAA officials because the NCAA was too stupid to copy/paste this shit into their rules:
A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and
approaches the opponent from behind or from the side.
Chest was wrong. The fans don't know shit about the rules and we need Mike Pereira to explain this shit to you guys:
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/pereira-explaining-blind-side-blocks-100514?vid=338078787834
Having said that, Perkins shouldn't have been disqualified because he was moving toward the Cal end line when he made the block, he blocked the guy from the front rather than the side, and I'm not sure he even made initial contact above the shoulders.
It was a ridiculous ejection that should have been overturned but every college replay booth in America sucks this year. -
Impikiswano kakhulu izinguquko imithetho wukuthi uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi for ezibhekiswe futhi eziqalisa kanye umqhele the isigqoko nobe ezibhekiswe umdlali abangenakuzivikela, owonile uzobe uyakhishwa.
"Imithetho in of ngokwazo kukhona zishintshe, kepha izinhlawulo zishintshile," esho. "Uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi for noma omunye walabo fouls, kudinga i ejection othomathikhi. Uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi phakathi nengxenye yokuqala, khona-ke kumelwe ahlale out esele game. Uma lo olungcolile kwenzeka ngesikhathi isigamu sesibili, kumelwe ahlale out nengxenye yokuqala emdlalweni olandelayo. Lezo fouls ngokuzenzakalela kubuyekezwe by replay izikhulu. Uma ucingo igingqika, umdlali abuyiselwe, kodwana isigwebo 15-egcekeni useyiqiniso. "
Umqhele the isigqoko ngokuqondile kuchazwa njengoba uqobo phezulu isigqoko sokuzivikela. Kuyinto lwezomthetho hit nanoma yimuphi omunye ingxenye isigqoko kubandakanya facemask.
Ukubhekisa umdlali ukuzivikela ukuncishiselwa elengeziwe futhi omisiwe ngoba ziningi ayisishiyagalolunye izinhlobo abadlali ukuthi angeke hit ngenhla emahlombe nganoma yingasiphi ngesikhathi game.
Abadlali Labo ayisishiyagalolunye yilezi: a player in the isenzo ngokudlula; odlala ezama ukubamba pass ngaphambi ukulawula ibhola ukuthutha football; a kicker oqotsheni ukukhahlela ngesikhathi ukukhahlela nobe ukubuya; a returner ezama ukubamba noma ubuya ukukhahlela ngaphambi ukulawula ibhola ukuthutha football; umdlali kusobala out of kwemingcele; umdlali iphiwa block blindside, a othwala ibhola ekubanjweni yomunye umdlali; futhi, a quarterback nanini ngemva kokushintsha yimpahla.
Lapho sinquma ukuthi noma cha umdlali kwase ezibhekiswe esinye umdlali, Rhoads uthe kukhona keys eziningana ukuthi ufundisa izikhulu zakhe ukuba ufune.
"Nakhu sibheke," esho. "Ingabe umdlali ashiye izinyawo zakhe ku an iphuzu phezulu? Akazange yena qojama esandulele iphuzu phezulu? Akazange yena kuholele kanye yisigqoko, bengalo, ngenqindi, ngesandla nobe ingcoza? Wakwenza wehlisa ikhanda ngaphambi behlasela ukuze ukuqalisa kanye umqhele? "
An emthethweni crack-back block kuyinto block ngezansi okhalweni. Players ngaphandle ukubhekana ibhokisi (ngamamitha angaphezu kuka abayisikhombisa out) noma umdlali in motion abakwazi ukuvimba elinye umdlali ngezansi okhalweni kuze emva ibhola is ubuthaphuthaphu nesikhathi okuphawulekayo isiphelile off iwashi. Emva kwesikhathi isiphelile off iwashi, yimuphi umdlali kungenzeka ivinjwe ngezansi okhalweni nje umdlali Ukuvinjwa ephambi kusidlali ivinjwe noma ngaphakathi zone 10 ngehora 2 ezimpondweni. -
On a sidenote, he has really "bulked" up from last year....
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Horseshit call
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Wait until Ivan gets his hands off him!MrsPetersen said:On a sidenote, he has really "bulked" up from last year....
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Crack back block?
That was a great football play.
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Anytime you can put in a photo of Rafi, I think you deserve an awesome vote.SpoonieLuv said:Crack back block?
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It's obviously a legal block. The retardation involved with this suspension is amazing even by Pac12FS standards.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
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monroecougdad said:
Impikiswano kakhulu izinguquko imithetho wukuthi uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi for ezibhekiswe futhi eziqalisa kanye umqhele the isigqoko nobe ezibhekiswe umdlali abangenakuzivikela, owonile uzobe uyakhishwa.
"Imithetho in of ngokwazo kukhona zishintshe, kepha izinhlawulo zishintshile," esho. "Uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi for noma omunye walabo fouls, kudinga i ejection othomathikhi. Uma umdlali ihlatshwe umkhosi phakathi nengxenye yokuqala, khona-ke kumelwe ahlale out esele game. Uma lo olungcolile kwenzeka ngesikhathi isigamu sesibili, kumelwe ahlale out nengxenye yokuqala emdlalweni olandelayo. Lezo fouls ngokuzenzakalela kubuyekezwe by replay izikhulu. Uma ucingo igingqika, umdlali abuyiselwe, kodwana isigwebo 15-egcekeni useyiqiniso. "
Umqhele the isigqoko ngokuqondile kuchazwa njengoba uqobo phezulu isigqoko sokuzivikela. Kuyinto lwezomthetho hit nanoma yimuphi omunye ingxenye isigqoko kubandakanya facemask.
Ukubhekisa umdlali ukuzivikela ukuncishiselwa elengeziwe futhi omisiwe ngoba ziningi ayisishiyagalolunye izinhlobo abadlali ukuthi angeke hit ngenhla emahlombe nganoma yingasiphi ngesikhathi game.
Abadlali Labo ayisishiyagalolunye yilezi: a player in the isenzo ngokudlula; odlala ezama ukubamba pass ngaphambi ukulawula ibhola ukuthutha football; a kicker oqotsheni ukukhahlela ngesikhathi ukukhahlela nobe ukubuya; a returner ezama ukubamba noma ubuya ukukhahlela ngaphambi ukulawula ibhola ukuthutha football; umdlali kusobala out of kwemingcele; umdlali iphiwa block blindside, a othwala ibhola ekubanjweni yomunye umdlali; futhi, a quarterback nanini ngemva kokushintsha yimpahla.
Lapho sinquma ukuthi noma cha umdlali kwase ezibhekiswe esinye umdlali, Rhoads uthe kukhona keys eziningana ukuthi ufundisa izikhulu zakhe ukuba ufune.
"Nakhu sibheke," esho. "Ingabe umdlali ashiye izinyawo zakhe ku an iphuzu phezulu? Akazange yena qojama esandulele iphuzu phezulu? Akazange yena kuholele kanye yisigqoko, bengalo, ngenqindi, ngesandla nobe ingcoza? Wakwenza wehlisa ikhanda ngaphambi behlasela ukuze ukuqalisa kanye umqhele? "
An emthethweni crack-back block kuyinto block ngezansi okhalweni. Players ngaphandle ukubhekana ibhokisi (ngamamitha angaphezu kuka abayisikhombisa out) noma umdlali in motion abakwazi ukuvimba elinye umdlali ngezansi okhalweni kuze emva ibhola is ubuthaphuthaphu nesikhathi okuphawulekayo isiphelile off iwashi. Emva kwesikhathi isiphelile off iwashi, yimuphi umdlali kungenzeka ivinjwe ngezansi okhalweni nje umdlali Ukuvinjwa ephambi kusidlali ivinjwe noma ngaphakathi zone 10 ngehora 2 ezimpondweni.
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The fact there's a ref looking right at it makes it even worse.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's obviously a legal block. The retardation involved with this suspension is amazing even by Pac12FS standards.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
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Brian Kelly and Brian Kelly approve this gif. "That's what that's what"SpoonieLuv said:Crack back block?
That was a great football play.
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I don't get it I guess. The guy was coming after Ross. No helmet leading, no crack back, no blind side. Hit him square in the shoulders. The guy was leveled on a clean block.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
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He positioned himself right in front of the guy and tilted his head to the right while leading with the left shoulder. Its all fucking bullshit anyways because of the change-of-direction nature of a broken play. Shit breaks down and people react.MikeDamone said:
I don't get it I guess. The guy was coming after Ross. No helmet leading, no crack back, no blind side. Hit him square in the shoulders. The guy was leveled on a clean block.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
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Which part, exactly, do I suck at? Quoting the exact words used by the mic'd head referee on the field at the time he made the call? Or block quoting from an article defining "crackback" blocks, "defenseless" players, and "targeting?"TierbsHsotBoobs said:You suck at this. Grow the hell up and learn the difference between a blindside block and a crack-back block. Here's the NFL definition of a blindside block that is used by NCAA officials because the NCAA was too stupid to copy/paste this shit into their rules: A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side. Chest was wrong. The fans don't know shit about the rules and we need Mike Pereira to explain this shit to you guys: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/pereira-explaining-blind-side-blocks-100514?vid=338078787834
My point, in this post and others, is that it was an utterly indefensible call. Nothing about Perkins's play satisfies the definitions of any of the terminology used by the ref who made the call on the field. -
That's a blindside block, not a crackback block.TTJ said:
Which part, exactly, do I suck at? Quoting the exact words used by the mic'd head referee on the field at the time he made the call? Or block quoting from an article defining "crackback" blocks, "defenseless" players, and "targeting?"TierbsHsotBoobs said:You suck at this. Grow the hell up and learn the difference between a blindside block and a crack-back block. Here's the NFL definition of a blindside block that is used by NCAA officials because the NCAA was too stupid to copy/paste this shit into their rules: A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side. Chest was wrong. The fans don't know shit about the rules and we need Mike Pereira to explain this shit to you guys: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/pereira-explaining-blind-side-blocks-100514?vid=338078787834
My point, in this post and others, is that it was an utterly indefensible call. Nothing about Perkins's play satisfies the definitions of any of the terminology used by the ref who made the call on the field.
If the ref said crackback, fire his ass on the 50 yard line.
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You think that official can see through #79 to see the block?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The fact there's a ref looking right at it makes it even worse.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's obviously a legal block. The retardation involved with this suspension is amazing even by Pac12FS standards.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
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Ossai Can You Seeeeee?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
You think that official can see through #79 to see the block?GrundleStiltzkin said:
The fact there's a ref looking right at it makes it even worse.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
It's obviously a legal block. The retardation involved with this suspension is amazing even by Pac12FS standards.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
But I was talking about the one in the lower left corner of frame.
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Good point. The umpire has a perfect look at that. Never should have been flagged, ejection and flag should have been overturned on review, Pac-12 fucking blows for failing to fix this fucking dreckfest.
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Actually, I think we agree it is neither.TierbsHsotBoobs said:That's a blindside block, not a crackback block. If the ref said crackback, fire his ass on the 50 yard line. We all know it's a bad call.
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How can a blindside block be called when the player prior to being blocked looks up at the guy moving in to block him, only to turn his attention back to the ball carrier before impact?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
That's a blindside block, not a crackback block.TTJ said:
Which part, exactly, do I suck at? Quoting the exact words used by the mic'd head referee on the field at the time he made the call? Or block quoting from an article defining "crackback" blocks, "defenseless" players, and "targeting?"TierbsHsotBoobs said:You suck at this. Grow the hell up and learn the difference between a blindside block and a crack-back block. Here's the NFL definition of a blindside block that is used by NCAA officials because the NCAA was too stupid to copy/paste this shit into their rules: A player who receives a “blindside” block when the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side. Chest was wrong. The fans don't know shit about the rules and we need Mike Pereira to explain this shit to you guys: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/video/pereira-explaining-blind-side-blocks-100514?vid=338078787834
My point, in this post and others, is that it was an utterly indefensible call. Nothing about Perkins's play satisfies the definitions of any of the terminology used by the ref who made the call on the field.
If the ref said crackback, fire his ass on the 50 yard line.
We all know it's a bad call.
If this is a true interpretation of the rule, doesn't every inside counter run now by this definition, contain a blindside block?
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Let me clarify:
It would have been a blindside block had it met the criteria for a blindside block. It was nothing resembling a crack back block.
Blindside blocks require the blocker to be moving toward his own goal line (against the grain of the play if you will). That clearly wasn't happening with the Perkins play.
For sarkastic: One of the criteria for a blindside block is that the blocker comes at the opponent from the side or from behind (BRB, JO). It should never be called a blindside block in this scenario because the block is coming from the front of the blockee.
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What is clear is that the only people on earth that you don't think suck or are epic dreckfest beings are officials.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Let me clarify:
It would have been a blindside block had it met the criteria for a blindside block. It was nothing resembling a crack back block.
Blindside blocks require the blocker to be moving toward his own goal line (against the grain of the play if you will). That clearly wasn't happening with the Perkins play.
For sarkastic: One of the criteria for a blindside block is that the blocker comes at the opponent from the side or from behind (BRB, JO). It should never be called a blindside block in this scenario because the block is coming from the front of the blockee.
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I think a few members of the onfield crew should be missing a game or two for fucking that call up. I think the replay officials for that game should be DONE. Not warned, just DONE.RaceBannon said:
What is clear is that the only people on earth that you don't think suck or are epic dreckfest beings are officials.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Let me clarify:
It would have been a blindside block had it met the criteria for a blindside block. It was nothing resembling a crack back block.
Blindside blocks require the blocker to be moving toward his own goal line (against the grain of the play if you will). That clearly wasn't happening with the Perkins play.
For sarkastic: One of the criteria for a blindside block is that the blocker comes at the opponent from the side or from behind (BRB, JO). It should never be called a blindside block in this scenario because the block is coming from the front of the blockee.
Clear as mud?
I'm surprised people are surprised by that
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Constructive criticism for Jim Blackwood:
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A bunch of people are missing the meaning of a blind side block.MikeDamone said:
I don't get it I guess. The guy was coming after Ross. No helmet leading, no crack back, no blind side. Hit him square in the shoulders. The guy was leveled on a clean block.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
Blind side refers to the position on the field in relation to which way the play is moving. Not which way the player is facing.
He is a defenseless player by rule. The only discretionary issue is whether Perkins targeted him. Its a weak call because he used his shoulder and he was barely moving before initiating the block. But what the ref must have looked at is that he left his feet on the follow through.
The ref should watch some hockey games. There is a huge difference between launching yourself through the air and powering up and through a hit such that you leave the ground on the follow through. One should be ejectable and the other shouldn't. -
You're missing the fact the pussy player saw what was coming but turned his vision back toward making the tackle.
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He's not a defenseless player. He was blocked from in front by a player moving forward.FremontTroll said:
A bunch of people are missing the meaning of a blind side block.MikeDamone said:
I don't get it I guess. The guy was coming after Ross. No helmet leading, no crack back, no blind side. Hit him square in the shoulders. The guy was leveled on a clean block.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
Blind side refers to the position on the field in relation to which way the play is moving. Not which way the player is facing.
He is a defenseless player by rule. The only discretionary issue is whether Perkins targeted him. Its a weak call because he used his shoulder and he was barely moving before initiating the block. But what the ref must have looked at is that he left his feet on the follow through.
The ref should watch some hockey games. There is a huge difference between launching yourself through the air and powering up and through a hit such that you leave the ground on the follow through. One should be ejectable and the other shouldn't.
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Actually, by rule, this play involves neither (1) a blindside block, nor (2) a defenseless player, nor (3) targeting. Oh for three ain't bad; you should play first base for the Mariners.FremontTroll said:A bunch of people are missing the meaning of a blind side block.
Blind side refers to the position on the field in relation to which way the play is moving. Not which way the player is facing.
He is a defenseless player by rule. The only discretionary issue is whether Perkins targeted him. Its a weak call because he used his shoulder and he was barely moving before initiating the block. But what the ref must have looked at is that he left his feet on the follow through. -
This.TierbsHsotBoobs said:He's not a defenseless player. He was blocked from in front by a player moving forward.
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I didn't write the rule.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
He's not a defenseless player. He was blocked from in front by a player moving forward.FremontTroll said:
A bunch of people are missing the meaning of a blind side block.MikeDamone said:
I don't get it I guess. The guy was coming after Ross. No helmet leading, no crack back, no blind side. Hit him square in the shoulders. The guy was leveled on a clean block.GrundleStiltzkin said:Horseshit call
Blind side refers to the position on the field in relation to which way the play is moving. Not which way the player is facing.
He is a defenseless player by rule. The only discretionary issue is whether Perkins targeted him. Its a weak call because he used his shoulder and he was barely moving before initiating the block. But what the ref must have looked at is that he left his feet on the follow through.
The ref should watch some hockey games. There is a huge difference between launching yourself through the air and powering up and through a hit such that you leave the ground on the follow through. One should be ejectable and the other shouldn't.
Hope this helps.
He is defenseless by rule because of Perkins moving parallel to his goal line and approaching from the defenders side. Doesn't matter that he turned and got hit in the chest.
The issue is whether he was targeted. I already explained he was not targeted and that is why it was a bad call.
Hope this helps.
