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Zelenskyy: "Americans will have to send their sons and daughters to fight and die"
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Gay retarded NATO wants to be attacked so bad.
The fuck we will.
We are going to have a false flag attack that NATO can blame on Russia within the next 30 days.
The Euros seem intent on sending their 18-25 year olds off to die in Ukraine thus saving the undrafted Ukrainians.
Ukraine has already attacked NATO.
To be fair, modern liberal ideals are centered on corruption.
Article five only covers defensive actions and we have a president now that would actually enforce that.
If the Euros enter the Ukraine they do so on their own.
Come on Z. You know better.
Ukraine has already attacked NATO.
Yep, and Biden covered for it.
What reality is MAGA going to face? If the Brits, French, and Canadians want to send troops to the frontlines, go for it. If they cams “handle it” themselves, why the crying over Trump saying no?
Gonna shit my pants with laughter when Europe signs a massive mineral deal with Ukraine.
Kind of have to end the war first, don’t they?
I’m guessing the “Russia has to give ba k land” Chickenhawks will be real quiet when new borders are drawn with new Russian land, if there is a peace agreement at all.
Will Putin settle without the US being involved financially? If we are out, good luck Euros. You’ll need it.
Godspeed to them.
Putin offered a mineral deal to the US. Zelensky wants to play with China he'll continue his stupidity
Starmer, Macron, Trudeau, and the rest of the G5 commissioners will finally win the big one on their own.
It would involve security guarantees obviously. You know, an actual deal.
So, when Trump was demanding a ceasefire and Zelensky said no, that was a clown show. But for some strange reason, now the Euros and Zelensky are working on a ceasefire. Euros and Zelensky will be demanding that the Russians keep only the Crimea and give up the territory they captured in this latest incursion. That seems like a non-starter for Putin.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-was-losing-villages-battlefield-during-zelensky-trump-showdown-oval
Ukraine Lost More Villages On The Battlefield During The Zelensky-Trump Showdown In The Ovalby Tyler Durden Saturday, Mar 01, 2025 - 10:25 AM
Many geopolitical pundits who are of the realism camp said from the start of the Ukraine war that it would be settled on the battlefield. Russia's military superiority has been evident to all - especially in the last two years of the conflict - which is of course why Kiev has remained totally reliant on military arms and aid from US-NATO countries.
This week as international press was focused on a flurry of diplomatic activity, which saw President Trump host France's Macron, the UK's Starmer, and Ukraine's Zelensky - all in quick succession, there hasn't been enough attention paid to developments on the battlefield in Ukraine's east.
While Zelensky was readying to make his last stand and 'confront' Trump at the White House - which of course did not go well at all - Ukrainian forces were steadily losing ground on the eastern frontline. Indeed Kiev forces were being beaten back at the very moment Zelensky and VP Vance were arguing in the Oval Office. Russia’s Defense Ministry said at the moment all eyes were on Trump-Zelensky meeting that its forces were busy seizing two more villages along the eastern frontlines.
"Moscow on Saturday said it had seized two more villages in eastern Ukraine as Kyiv officials said Russian strikes had killed one person and wounded 19," AFP reports.
"The Russian defense ministry said its forces had captured Skudne and Burlatske in the south of the eastern Donetsk region," the report continues. This is just outside the town of Velyka Novossilka, which Russia captured at the end of January.
The Ukrainians have been steadily losing ground for months in Donetsk, but have continued efforts to strike Russian oil and gas facilities inside Russian territory, which hasn't made any level of a strategic difference in the war.
It would involve security guarantees obviously. You know, an actual deal.
What is the structure of the security guarantees? Who is the protector of Ukraine militarily?
The kids table of Starmer and the gang are making some noise, but they have no plan at all.
Someone had to play the Neville Chamberlain/Charles Lindbergh role in these discussions. It was kind of the TugCons to volunteer.