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Passenger plane from Wichita collides with DC police helicopter minutes ago arriving to Dulles

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  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165

    @EverettChris stop with accusations of me being Buck. I am literally telling you that I am a pilot and he has been accused of being an L4 at amazon. So now Buck and I share an account where he is a L4 product analyst but also pilot? You all don't make sense.


    I am going back to the pilot lounge with @Logistics so we can plan our approaches and departures and find our best victor routes.

  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,160 Swaye's Wigwam

    You have to understand @SwoopTheMoon…EverettChris….well…he’s special.

  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,887 Swaye's Wigwam

    Don't you worry one little hair on your head about Big Ern now.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,129 Standard Supporter

    Plenty of money for Ukraine and $50 million in cash for "condoms" for Gaza but not enough to hire air traffic controllers. America Last will be awesome as a 2028 election slogan for the dems.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    Reports: The Air Traffic Control Tower in DC Was Understaffed

    —Ace

    But wait until you hear why.

    President Trump confirmed Thursday that there are no survivors after an American Airlines plane and an Army helicopter collided in the air over Washington DC Wednesday night. The search-and-rescue operation became a recovery mission in the early morning hours, officials said.

    The flight from Wichita, Kan., collided with the military chopper while approaching Runaway 33 at Reagan National airport around 9 p.m., according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

    There were 64 people aboard American Flight 5324, with 28 bodies recovered from the river so far, officials said Thursday afternoon. The bodies of all three soldiers who were on the Army helicopter had been recovered as well.

    ..

    The air traffic controller working at the time of the deadly plane-helicopter crash in Washington was doing the work of two people, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

    Staffing in the air traffic control tower at Ronald Reagan National Airport was "not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic," the FAA found in its preliminary report, according to the New York Times.

    Why was it understaffed? Well, the claim being made by corrupt paid-off NeverTrumpers and leftwing media propagandists is that Trump Did It in the past 8 days. Click-farmer and disinformation peddler Aaron Rupar claimed that the crash was caused by Trump firing the head of the TSA -- who has nothing to do with air flights, and is only responsible for setting the correct molestation parameters for groping people at the airport -- and the head of the Coast Guard, because he decided that Boats Are the Airplanes of the Sea.

    Also pushing this line was CNN's criminally-stupid Bakari Sellers and "Muh Principles" NeverTrump grifter/nobody Heath Mayo.

    There is an alternative explanation, though: The Biden Administration stopped hiring qualified air traffic controllers because the qualified candidates they were getting were "too white."

    They changed the test to be "biographical" -- code for, "We're going to ask you about any racism you've experienced in your life," wink-wink -- and refused to hire 3000 qualified "too white" candidates.

  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165

    Literally I told you 3 hours ago that there is a staffing shortage-why are we surprised by a bombshell report for a topic I literally just mentioned? @WestlinnDuck do you know that the future of ATC is to not even have people in the tower but just do it from home? It follows the Alaska model of flight service actually. Here is an article that is from months ago:

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/united-says-faa-staffing-shortages-causing-significant-disruption-newark-hub-2024-11-26/

    Once again lets keep the politics out of an issue that has nothing to do with politics.

  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,160 Swaye's Wigwam

    Honestly I’m surprised these guys haven’t accused you of using Google for your knowledge. That’s what they do to me for my Tech and Finance knowledge. And it’s weird because when I ask them to use Google to counter my statements they can’t do it.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,129 Standard Supporter
    edited January 30

    Well, now is now. And we all knew there was a staffing shortage. Why didn't Team Buck open up hiring to competent white males rather than lie about DEI? This isn't on me or Trump. It's on moron's like you talking about the future in how many year? Don't hurt yourself.

  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165

    @WestlinnDuck im sorry but I don’t trust your aviation expertise because clearly copying and pasting random articles from random sources is someone who would fly experimental instead of certified like me.

  • HuskyBuckHuskyBuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,160 Swaye's Wigwam

    lol I love it. It would appear to me that Swoop and Logistics are legitimate pilots…


    Everyone else here doing what they do…browsing their media of choice to come up replies and coming up with some lame arguments and talking out of their ass.


    Folks I’m not a pilot, but you don’t see me on here giving expertise I’m not qualified to give. I’ll save that asswhoopin for you guys on the Tech and Finance topics. I’ve been waiting for yall to send your next expert in those areas so I can hand their asses to them. I’ll leave Swoop and Logistics to clean up here.

  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 5,732 Standard Supporter

    60 people dead and this asshole is yet again making things all about himself with not one, but two accounts.

    Mental illness is a real thing

    DIAFF

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,129 Standard Supporter
    edited January 30

    So, what did you object to? I'm not an epidemiologist but I knew that St. Fow Chee was full of shit. I knew that Russia Russia was a hoax. I knew that the Hunter laptop was real although I'm not an official intelligence officer who signed Blinkens bull shit letter. But I do know that hiring incompetents because they met some DEI guideline and refuse to hire competent white males leads to shortages or incompetents. Don't hurt yourself.

  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165

    @EverettChris I honestly don't understand why you're so offended about someone saying, what I have been saying. I call BS on DEI and threw down my resume since no one here will listen to reason.

    I don't retract my main statement which can be found below…

    If you guys REALLY cared about aviation safety (or actually knew anything about aviation in general) you would know that the removal of a co-pilot, removal of ATC towers at non major airports and remote ATC management (AKA controller isn't sitting at the airport) but I can't seem to find the outrage.

    Talk to all your other cronies on here about how this has been turned into a DEI topic….

  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,887 Swaye's Wigwam
  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 5,732 Standard Supporter
    edited January 30

    Spaz is still trying to sell this, huh?

    Trump knows who the ATCs at Reagan were last night. He wouldn’t have called out Pete GiggityGiggity if he didn’t know.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,129 Standard Supporter

    Which has nothing to do with DEI hires as ACT personnel or that Reagan airport was apparently understaffed. You do realize that you dems had the ball for the last four years?

  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165
    edited January 31

    Dear god what am I trying to sell? For someone who is in aviation I can tell you what the major issues are without having to google it. I am not sure why someone who is providing an informed opinion without having to google it is considered a spaz but…hey this is an internet message board so usually the most informed are the ones most trolled!

    @WestlinnDuck Do you know where a high percentage of ATC people come from? The military. The military pipeline is reducing-thats also a factor in the current pilot shortage as well. I think it's a little more complicated than "oh just hire more people" like the FAA is a Spirit Halloween in the month of September.

    What an inflammatory point of view that was huh @EverettChris? Jesus this board…..

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 16,129 Standard Supporter

    As well? So we need to reduce competency rather than increase supply by perhaps raising wages. Your side ran on that. You lost. I'll wager this was a military helicopter pilot phuck up or a ATC error or both and your view on "as well" military jet pilots shortage isn't the case. Try to stick to what happened and not what didn't happen or what could happen in the future.

  • SwoopTheMoonSwoopTheMoon Member Posts: 165

    I’m on the side of pilot safety baby not sure what side your on!

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 109,015 Founders Club

    You got zero points for being a former military ATC

    That's DEI

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