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The many myths of Mark Emmert
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Gerberding didn't know that he didn't matter for over a decade. He was ignorant to the fact that Don James was more powerful than he was. Only after winning the national championship in '91 did Gerberding realize he wasn't the big dick on campus.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Gerberding was terrible, so was Hedges.Mad_Son said:I think Emmert was a pretty good president, if you disregard football. I don't think disregarding football is valid, but he wasn't completely worthless in my opinion. I would rate him above Gerberding anyways...
I would take both in a New York minute over Emmert and Pool Boy/Todd Turner.
I'd rather have an ignorant, hands off president like Gerberding for over a decade who let the football team win 4 Rose Bowls, an Orange Bowl, and a national championship than a hands on, incompetent bafoon like Emmert fuck everything up, then render himself blameless after he killed the football program.
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Gerberding inherited James. I don't *think* Emmert would fire a coach with the success of James - he just wouldn't prioritize finding one. I think they are both football fuck-ups but Emmert did more good per annum for the university in general than Gerberding. Again, just my ignorant half-brained opinion.CheersWestDawg said:
Gerberding didn't know that he didn't matter for over a decade. He was ignorant to the fact that Don James was more powerful than he was. Only after winning the national championship in '91 did Gerberding realize he wasn't the big dick on campus.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Gerberding was terrible, so was Hedges.Mad_Son said:I think Emmert was a pretty good president, if you disregard football. I don't think disregarding football is valid, but he wasn't completely worthless in my opinion. I would rate him above Gerberding anyways...
I would take both in a New York minute over Emmert and Pool Boy/Todd Turner.
I'd rather have an ignorant, hands off president like Gerberding for over a decade who let the football team win 4 Rose Bowls, an Orange Bowl, and a national championship than a hands on, incompetent bafoon like Emmert fuck everything up, then render himself blameless after he killed the football program.
Fuck Mark Emmert and piss on his grave. -
On the academic and fundraising side of things, Emmert did pretty well, but it's not like McCormick was a disaster.Mad_Son said:
Gerberding inherited James. I don't *think* Emmert would fire a coach with the success of James - he just wouldn't prioritize finding one. I think they are both football fuck-ups but Emmert did more good per annum for the university in general than Gerberding. Again, just my ignorant half-brained opinion.CheersWestDawg said:
Gerberding didn't know that he didn't matter for over a decade. He was ignorant to the fact that Don James was more powerful than he was. Only after winning the national championship in '91 did Gerberding realize he wasn't the big dick on campus.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Gerberding was terrible, so was Hedges.Mad_Son said:I think Emmert was a pretty good president, if you disregard football. I don't think disregarding football is valid, but he wasn't completely worthless in my opinion. I would rate him above Gerberding anyways...
I would take both in a New York minute over Emmert and Pool Boy/Todd Turner.
I'd rather have an ignorant, hands off president like Gerberding for over a decade who let the football team win 4 Rose Bowls, an Orange Bowl, and a national championship than a hands on, incompetent bafoon like Emmert fuck everything up, then render himself blameless after he killed the football program.
Fuck Mark Emmert and piss on his grave.
Of course, McCormick didn't let the football program continue to rot and play slimeball political games to get ahead. -
But explain how he was a bad president.
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Regardless of any mythology posted or commented on Dawgman, it was always clear for those paying attention that Turner was Emmert's hiring mistake and nobody elses. Dr. Snakeoil bragged about it in the context that Todd was his man to clean up the Montlake mess while assuring us that such would be Turner's focus.
I remember seeing a post on the Dawgman site which might have been Turner Myth #2 explaining that Todd was actually hired as temporary AD by interim president Huntsman to start the Montlake cleanup in the wake of Hedges' forced retirement and that a permanent AD position for Turner was contingent on Emmert's approval once his eminence's hiring as new UW president was finalized. Even though he was high on the unemployed former Vandy AD, this info appeared to have absolved Emmert of primary responsibility for the Turner hiring mistake. However, I seem to recall posting this mythology myself as just another lame attempt at cynicism for the times Husky Football was struggling through,....... except that I'm uncertain my sense of recall can now be sufficient to accurately serve memories of the Emmert-Turner fiasco. Simply put, it's time to say fuck-it while never ever forgetting the eventual net result: Willingham's 0-12 masterpiece. -
Funding for everything except football at UW was in a deplorable funk in the mid-1980's when Gerberding became president. His political and fund raising abilities are what saved our great university from ruin in those desperate times. Enrollment at UW was actually in decline under heavy admittance demand and I know from my own experience that many lower campus colleges such as engineering were in serious trouble seeking operational funbding. Having said that, there's also no question that Gerberding was a complete idiot when it came to UW athletics in general and Husky Football in particular, which he clearly demonstrated by forcing the retirements of Marv Harshman and Mike Lude and conspired with his Pac-10 peers to chase Don James into leaving before his time with us was over. I'm certain Gerberding's security as UW president suffered because of that as it should have.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:
On the academic and fundraising side of things, Emmert did pretty well, but it's not like McCormick was a disaster.Mad_Son said:
Gerberding inherited James. I don't *think* Emmert would fire a coach with the success of James - he just wouldn't prioritize finding one. I think they are both football fuck-ups but Emmert did more good per annum for the university in general than Gerberding. Again, just my ignorant half-brained opinion.CheersWestDawg said:
Gerberding didn't know that he didn't matter for over a decade. He was ignorant to the fact that Don James was more powerful than he was. Only after winning the national championship in '91 did Gerberding realize he wasn't the big dick on campus.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Gerberding was terrible, so was Hedges.Mad_Son said:I think Emmert was a pretty good president, if you disregard football. I don't think disregarding football is valid, but he wasn't completely worthless in my opinion. I would rate him above Gerberding anyways...
I would take both in a New York minute over Emmert and Pool Boy/Todd Turner.
I'd rather have an ignorant, hands off president like Gerberding for over a decade who let the football team win 4 Rose Bowls, an Orange Bowl, and a national championship than a hands on, incompetent bafoon like Emmert fuck everything up, then render himself blameless after he killed the football program.
Fuck Mark Emmert and piss on his grave.
Of course, McCormick didn't let the football program continue to rot and play slimeball political games to get ahead.
When Emmert arrived several years later, fund raising largely driven by Bill Gates Sr. and others was in great shape and getting significantly better. In my opinion, Dr. Snake Oil simply stepped into the gravy train that his predecessors Gerberding, McCormack, and Gates Sr. had built. As with anything worth while, UW academics, research, and self-sufficient enterprises have always followed the money and Emmert did little to jeopardize that except for his interference east of Montlake in trashing Husky Football. Is the UW better off in academics and research as well as athletics without Dr. Emmert? Absolutely!
