Congrats Ducks!!!!!!!
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Creep, it boils down to firing a coach after one season being worse for the program than LIFPO for another, full, year.
Dude didn't even get 12 months and walked into a situation not many ever have.
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Actually, I would come up with another analogy. I was bulging in my sweatpants until the last line. And even after the last line, I was thinking, "hey, not a bad a few weeks there. can't win 'em all."
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I honestly don't disagree with that. The play call at the Apple Cup was painful, but every coach makes shitty calls.
I think there is a world in which your LIPO point can co-exist with UW not trying hard enough to keep KDB. KDB underwhelming, which I enjoyed btw, can be viewed in context and it's not crazy to think he'd continue to be successful here where it's possible he's a bad fit down there. At any rate, as well as he did here, UW had an obligation to bust their ass to keep him and all indications are that they didn't. You have to make him say no, I want to go to Alabama no matter what you offer.
But Fisch did not walk into an ideal situation. I'm on record many times that year 1 is a sort-of pass unless the guy makes it obvious in year one that he ain't it, which happens. I wouldn't say that happened with Fisch, though, again, Cuog is a bit bothersome.
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I don't know what happened there. I didn't even think you could make an empty post. Fucking Vanilla.
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The KDB situation likely had a lot of factors, but UW was trying to keep him when it was evident halfway through 2023 he was a transcendent coach.
I think there are few worlds that exist where KDB stays at UW with Sexton as his agent. Sexton is a Southern guy that gets guys paid primarily by Southern schools.
Sexton is the type of pretentious guy to guide Kalen away from far flung, cold Warshington and into the sugar diabetes tea embrace of the South, which has been the mecca of the sport.
Did KDB like it here in liberal coffee land? Did his wife? Was he hitting Cohen on the side? Why did Cohen leave? Did he hate Dannen (likely)? Did he love UW but feel compelled by taking over the Bama spotlight? Does he hate Lesbian Cuban President's? Did he take a look at the UW roster sans Penix and compare it to Bamas? The recruiting aspect?
We don't know. But I don't think he was likely to stay at UW once Sexton began whispering in his ear.
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The other thing about Fisch is he did not kill it in the portal as needed to bounce back now
On the field he was bad. Off the field he is bad. Seems pretty played out. Jimmy got one year. When you suck you suck. Gilby got two and easily could have been fired after 1
When you combine that with the UW pulling an epic fuck up any fan who cares more about Washington winning than Oregon losing would be upset
I don't care if people disagree or think Fisch will make it or want more time. Disagreements make the world go around
It was the viscous attacks against anyone like myself that noticed that the emperor was naked and said so. It was complete bullshit peddled as fact by some here that there was nothing that could have been done about DeBoer
Had they hired someone who was as good it wouldn't even be a conversation. But as long as we are anxiously waiting to see if Fisch can win 7 games or 8 games I intend to keep annoying everyone with it
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If we are bashing viscous attacks I am OUT!
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You were annoyingly preening around here all season with the gleeful exuberance of a future NC winner so you can spin on it now 👍
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POTY
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HcH poll about UW's final record was normally distributed around 6-8 wins, yes?
Why so many surprised now?
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The Big 10 (and college football overall, to a lesser extent) had a lot of putrid QBs and passing offenses and Oregon took advantage of that while UW flailed and got beat by some of the worst QBs to ever beat UW outside of the Ty years. All of the non-Pac-12 Big 10 teams outside of Ohio State and Penn State were easy to beat if you had a functional offense/QB or if you could stop the run at all. Unfortunately UW had neither and squandered the chance for an easy 9-10-win season in a scorched earth rebuilding year.
We all knew UW would be average at best and Oregon good with a golden opportunity in a shit field so them getting bounced in the Elite 8 and not even getting where UW got in 2023 is poetry.
Oregon's weakness under Lanning has been DBs. They just got away with it for a lot of this year because Ohio State was the only team with a pass offense with a pulse that they played. Looks like they spent a ton in hs recruiting this year though at DB.;
Oregon is still in a better place than UW for 2025 and beyond though so I'm only celebrating so much.
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When you confuse relief with success…
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I don't study the teen bois closely enough to judge and mostly depend on this place to tell me who did what in the portal and recruiting. I see it when I see it. So, I can't comment on that part of it.
On the field, what I would say I saw was a coach with a middling roster deliver middling results. I'm not sure there was any chicken salad to be made from that chicken shit, to borrow a phrase oft-employed by Gary Stevens. But, I thought he stuck with Rodgers too long, maybe could have found a way to use Boston more and made some weird play calls in a few games. That's mostly all the bad things I can say about him. Maybe underwhelming is the word. The roster wasn't great, and Lord knows when the O line is in disarray pretty much everything breaks. But there are guys who can show up and do something in those situations and he wasn't that. Still, I would not compare him to Lake. It looked broken with Lake almost from the start. That was classic Peter Principle.
Let's just stipulate UW fucked up even though PGOS makes some reasonable points about Sexton and the fact that KDB is an upper-midwest guy who probably didn't want to die here or anything and was more likely than not to leave. And let's just stipulate that LIPO is the only option anyway, but I fully expect you to keep annoying everyone with it. If we didn't have that, this would be the other place.
I'll say this: it would have been interesting to see what KDB could have done with this year's UW roster. Would he have been better for Rodgers? Would he have started DW sooner and been better for him?
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Lots of hypothetical dealings, but if DeBoer stays so does all the oline and defensive transfers. Rogers has time to pass and UW wins 9 games or so.
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Agree.
Anything short of 9 wins with your schedule and DeBoer would have been a modest setback.
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Well Demond is at Arizona or wherever Fisch went to in a hypothetical where Kalen stays at UW. Austin Mack would be the guy you are considering benching Rogers for.. Big hypotheticals as well if you keep the band together is if Rosengarten stays, Polk or McMillan at WR, and maybe Dillon Johnson at RB though I think he was broken and needed to go try and make an NFL roster.
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I don't think any of those guys were staying and I'm pretty sure Johnson was out of eligibility
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All these hypotheticals suck. Like UW and Fisch.
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I can't say about Rosengarten but I'm 89% sure Polk and McMillen are outta here. Any warm and fuzzies that might have kept them around another season to play outside of Rome's shadow would have been offset by (1) no Penix and (2) the real prospect of a draft-lowering injury. I can't see those two staying either way.
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UW and Fisch are an unequivocal reality. Nothing hypothetical here.
I don't blame you for leaning into alternate universes, however.
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Sounds like somebody's "relieved" because he actually thinks that Lanning has *finally* won a game with anything of consequence on the line..
