Sweet 16 (late 1970's to mid 1980's) - #3 Van Halen vs #7 Queen

BleachedAnusDawg said:

I like Queen, but their greatest hits album does not come close to how comprehensive Van Halen's is from the DLR years. A lot of people in here need some perspective.

OK!

PurpleThrobber said:

YellowSnow said:

Wow - the gayme is tied up 20-20 with less than 24 hours to go. So far, I've only had to use my tie breaking skillz once which is a good thing.

All this Queen love just tells me there is a disproportionate number of closeted fags on HH.

This game has brought down the closet doors...NTTAWWT

Southerndawg said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.

I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songs

And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place

Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special

Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.

Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.

Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger.

*Rock Candy is one of the three

Your Love is Driving Me Crazy

I'll find Love Again

*Montrose track when Sammy was the lead/only singer - fun album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDO3qBo72M

I like this better though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUgW5CLk18

This whole album kicks ass and honestly predates Eddie Van Halen with the hot rodded out amplifiers

joeEDangerously said:

Southerndawg said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

RaceBannon said:

BearsWiin said:

If this had been between Queen and Diamond Dave's Van Heflin, I'd have trouble choosing. But, in the end, Queen never hired fucking Sammy Hagar.

I get the Van Hagar hate but Sammy had a great solo career in the 70's and made my final play list with three songs

And one of the best ever Live from Darryl's Place

Queen is meh. I remember when they came out and a friend was raving about them. I pointed out that they were nothing special

Nothing in Sammy's solo career comes close to being as good as Rock Candy. He's better when somebody else writes his material.

Hagar got better when he joined Van Heflin. Van Heflin got worse when he joined them.

Never really liked Queen as a kid. We'd go to Europe and see their concert poasters plastered all over the place, and I could never figure it out. I like Queen more the older I get, same with Bob Seger.

*Rock Candy is one of the three

Your Love is Driving Me Crazy

I'll find Love Again

*Montrose track when Sammy was the lead/only singer - fun album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtDO3qBo72M

I like this better though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUgW5CLk18

This whole album kicks ass and honestly predates Eddie Van Halen with the hot rodded out amplifiers

You have great taste my fren. Cheers.

BleachedAnusDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

PurpleThrobber said:

YellowSnow said:

Wow - the gayme is tied up 20-20 with less than 24 hours to go. So far, I've only had to use my tie breaking skillz once which is a good thing.

All this Queen love just tells me there is a disproportionate number of closeted fags on HH.

Butt rock is what frat boys listen to while munching on their gookie cookie. It's the height of closeted poofery. HTH.

I don't think you know what butt rock is.

Stations used to say "nothing but rock" i.e. butt rock

While plenty of it included nu-metal and all that garbage those stations were also notorious for playing 80's hair metal and "hard rock" ad nauseam. If you wanted to listen to a weekend marathon of 80's hardrock you turned it to the butt rock station. If you wanted to listen to grunge or other "alternative" rock then you listened to the "alternative" station(including shitty punk rock). I still remember it was a big fucking deal when our local "butt rock" station finally broke down and played Smells like Teen Spirit. All the Butt rockers locally were outraged! That was the terminology I grew up using in my peer group locally, I have no doubt it was different for different people.

So, if you want to be real technical, VH might fall out of that category but then you are arguing the semantics of musical classification. Which, I guess one could do on this bored but I'll continue to still use it as a derogatory classification for all the generic throw away rock that populated the 80's and early 90's.

YellowSnow said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

PurpleThrobber said:

YellowSnow said:

Wow - the gayme is tied up 20-20 with less than 24 hours to go. So far, I've only had to use my tie breaking skillz once which is a good thing.

All this Queen love just tells me there is a disproportionate number of closeted fags on HH.

Butt rock is what frat boys listen to while munching on their gookie cookie. It's the height of closeted poofery. HTH.

I don't think you know what butt rock is.

Stations used to say "nothing but rock" i.e. butt rock

While plenty of it included nu-metal and all that garbage those stations were also notorious for playing 80's hair metal and "hard rock" ad nauseam. If you wanted to listen to a weekend marathon of 80's hardrock you turned it to the butt rock station. If you wanted to listen to grunge or other "alternative" rock then you listened to the "alternative" station(including shitty punk rock). I still remember it was a big fucking deal when our local "butt rock" station finally broke down and played Smells like Teen Spirit. All the Butt rockers locally were outraged! That was the terminology I grew up using in my peer group locally, I have no doubt it was different for different people.

So, if you want to be real technical, VH might fall out of that category but then you are arguing the semantics of musical classification. Which, I guess one could do on this bored but I'll continue to still use it as a derogatory classification for all the generic throw away rock that populated the 80's and early 90's.

VH was the primary influence on so much of the nothing but rock that followed in the 1980's. I don't think they technically fit as you allude to, but don't object to their being in the same family tree. Van Hager is definitely but rock.

This is a fair point, Van Hager is what I knew Van Halen as when I was younger(and what was played on the radio) so they got lumped into the category by default. Don't let Sway read this but ACDC was definitely in the butt rock camp. The difference for me being they didn't make generic and boring music that seemed to come out of the 80's corporate music factories. To me, a lot of the 80's rock scene was so consumed with it's own image and materialism that it lacks any of the soul of the rock of the 60's & 70's while simultaneously lacking any interesting experimental or technical elements. It was produced for the masses and consumed by the masses. Maybe, had I been a bit older, I would have appreciated more of the technical aspects of 80's rock but it seems to me like you need to hunt into sub-genres(80's metal is revolutionary) to actually find that in most 80's music, or, ironically, look at 80's pop music where there was a ton of experimentation being done.

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

BleachedAnusDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

PurpleThrobber said:

YellowSnow said:

Wow - the gayme is tied up 20-20 with less than 24 hours to go. So far, I've only had to use my tie breaking skillz once which is a good thing.

All this Queen love just tells me there is a disproportionate number of closeted fags on HH.

Butt rock is what frat boys listen to while munching on their gookie cookie. It's the height of closeted poofery. HTH.

I don't think you know what butt rock is.

Stations used to say "nothing but rock" i.e. butt rock

While plenty of it included nu-metal and all that garbage those stations were also notorious for playing 80's hair metal and "hard rock" ad nauseam. If you wanted to listen to a weekend marathon of 80's hardrock you turned it to the butt rock station. If you wanted to listen to grunge or other "alternative" rock then you listened to the "alternative" station(including shitty punk rock). I still remember it was a big fucking deal when our local "butt rock" station finally broke down and played Smells like Teen Spirit. All the Butt rockers locally were outraged! That was the terminology I grew up using in my peer group locally, I have no doubt it was different for different people.

So, if you want to be real technical, VH might fall out of that category but then you are arguing the semantics of musical classification. Which, I guess one could do on this bored but I'll continue to still use it as a derogatory classification for all the generic throw away rock that populated the 80's and early 90's.

VH was the primary influence on so much of the nothing but rock that followed in the 1980's. I don't think they technically fit as you allude to, but don't object to their being in the same family tree. Van Hager is definitely but rock.

This is a fair point, Van Hager is what I knew Van Halen as when I was younger(and what was played on the radio) so they got lumped into the category by default. Don't let Sway read this but ACDC was definitely in the butt rock camp. The difference for me being they didn't make generic and boring music that seemed to come out of the 80's corporate music factories. To me, a lot of the 80's rock scene was so consumed with it's own image and materialism that it lacks any of the soul of the rock of the 60's & 70's while simultaneously lacking any interesting experimental or technical elements. It was produced for the masses and consumed by the masses. Maybe, had I been a bit older, I would have appreciated more of the technical aspects of 80's rock but it seems to me like you need to hunt into sub-genres(80's metal is revolutionary) to actually find that in most 80's music, or, ironically, look at 80's pop music where there was a ton of experimentation being done.

Jesus.

Van Halen was the American Led Zeppelin from 78-84. The first four VH records hold up to this day. And dont get down on Diver Down, there are some pretty good tunes on it. and remove Jump and I'll Wait from 1984, and 1984 is a total rock record

BleachedAnusDawg said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

YellowSnow said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

This one is for you @YellowSnow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvAGBz4ZJm4

I bought all those VH records used for a $1.99 each. Stupid hipsters just don't get VH therefore no supply issues in the used bins.

TBF regular people don't give a shit about VH either. Still, I found the part from the video about Sammy Hagar hilarious regardless.

Last time I checked there wasn't a Queen cover band headlining at Taste of Edmonds for 5 years running. Fag.

When I saw the Atomic Punks somewhere around 2004 it was basically Steel Panther that was the band