Four loss DeBoer
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This guy gets it
Part of the issue has always been that only the lunatic fringe wants to hold them accountable so they are not held accountable
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For 10 years people arrive drinking the koolaid and within 12mo look like a zombie and I don’t think it’s the local press or internet half brains. Something is wrong and they know they don’t want a long tenure.
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I wouldn’t be shocked by an 11-2 Bamma team next season.
But DeBoer taking over 2024 Bamma isn’t a good comp to a new HC stepping into 1975 or 2024 Washington. It’s just not.
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24 Bama was vastly over rated. Buried here is my post pointing out that 23 UW had a better QB, wideouts, and running backs than 24 Bama. Germie Bernard was WR 1 yesterday.
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2 of the past 3 (prior hires) worked out pretty well.
3 conference titles over the past 8 years.
University Pres killed the Pac to move to B1G.
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Sounds like there was some nuance involved.
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Those are facts
Vandy and UT were still winnable. OU was a Milroe failure. Pretty sure all you Bama fans here calling for DeBoer's head aren't interested in nuance anymore than I am
You can take nuance and put it with perspective and fuck them both
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he’s not your chief, pal.
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I got some nuance for you:
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The first time I went golfing with @DerekJohnson a few years ago (hadn’t seen Stalin in person since 2019) I walked up and said “how ya doing, pal?”
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he’s not your pal, I’m confident I can do this all day. It’s like tick-tac-toe
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Player-wise…
23 Washington Offense > > 24 Bama
24 Bama Defense > > > > > 23 WashingtonInteresting to see what Jalen Milroe does…if he decides to stick around for another year that’s not a good sign for DeBoner. And if he keeps his buddy Sheridan around for another year that’s not going to help him much either.
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key points you made here being much different circumstances. James coached in a “build it” era. And when people thought the PNW was the wilderness and he had a significant uphill recruiting challenge, where you conceded the recruiting wars to USC and UCLA. An era during which the PAC 10 team with the senior QB had the inside track. all kinds of shit like that which made process and taking the long view critical.
it’s a quick man’s game today. I’ll say it again: nobody is program building anymore. It’s a fast food drive-through culture and game. People talk that bullshit like they’re doing something special but is just instagram post bullshit. it’s really just talent acquisition and having the smartest coordinators and go call the right plays.
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Can we go back to the build it era @creepycoug ?
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not up to me. You know how I feel.
PGOS says nothing’s changed, so maybe our concern is misplaced.
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You can still build a program. Saying you can't is retarded.
You need to both build a program and augment it with great transfers in the right places.
Over relying on the portal can fuck up chemistry if not done correctly
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preach it brother
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The one thing that hasn't changed is fans' expectations
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To @LoneStarDawg's point, those conference titles you refer to were by coaches who didn't stick around. Peterman starts winning consistently, has the football program humming… he promptly resigns. UW finally finds a winner in DeBoer… he leaves after only two fucking seasons. Not to mention Dannen leaving less than six months on the job. Something's going on behind close doors with this program because the turnover in the athletic departments is undeniable. We'll see how long Chun lasts, but I highly doubt he's around long.
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I’m not liking the sample pool here @digits
Pete was here for 6 years and then burned out on college football. That’s not a UW thing. That’s a state of college football thing.
DeBoer got poached by the greatest program in the history of the sport. -
Nuance has never been a HH strong suit
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Fuck nuance
It's the new perspective
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Walks on the beach are undefeated
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I thrive on both !!
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Excuses, excuses. UW has plenty of 'em.
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I don’t even know how far I’d have to walk down a beach to gain nuance. Is it further than to gain perspective or shorter? And can it even be found on a beach. Or do we need something different. Like the Tiger Mountain trailhead, for example.
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@digits is dialed. Petersen burned out prematurely. Jen, UW lifer, bounced, the bald fuck bounced in under 12 mo, Kalen did us dirty prepping papers during a natty run.
I’m not saying there is a huge institutional problem at UW, but if there was, this is what it would look like.
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Peterman was the loss IMO. Wanted to be here because he likes the clean country of the PNW. Turned out to be a great recruiter. Probably would have been smart enough to eventually get out of his own way offensively. Dont know how he would have handled all this but could have been an institutional coach in an era where those are hard to come by.
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He said on the Apple Cup pregame show that he realized he was slipping hard as a coach in 2019. I don't think it would have mattered where he was coaching at that point.
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So how did UW institutional culture cause him to retire?
