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Syrian Civil War 2 - Middle East Boogaloo

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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    We should definitely stop aiding countries that don't need aiding. DOGE!!!

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,238 Founders Club

    Hopefully we can do that. You seem to have this board confused with Fox News.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,334

    What would stop you?

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273

    100. What a monumental fuck up. It would be like Montlake Futures wiring $50 million to Division Street. You just don't do that.

    Also, I'll say this: it's a lot about oil, but it's not all about oil. Not close. You have a massive political, social and cultural force that leans hard into a particularly rigid and antiquated form of sectarian belief, and that leaning mobilize people both in the region and in the broader diasporas. If you doubt that, you'd have to explain to me why it is that people in Hamtramck, Dearborn and London are sympathetic to those leanings, are trying to recreate those societies where they sit and are hostile to their current homeland. There are no oil issues in Michigan or London. But there are striking cultural issues that are rubbing up against, and in tension with, some of the most basic tenets of western morality and civilization. It's not my opinion. It's just a fact. Nothing to do with oil.

    I understand that oil interests, private and governmental, get involved to stoke fires, put them out, stoke them again elsewhere, etc. etc. But there's a lot more going on than that. Oil is not the reason that the Arab world wants Israel to disappear. And the Palestinian Arabs, who are disproportionately responsible for trouble in the region, do not give a fuck about oil. They really don't give a fuck about the dirt as much as they let on. What they care about is Israel and Jews not being there. And they have a lot of support in the wider Arab world.

    Have to say I loved reading MBS say he personally does not care about the Palestinian issue. He literally said that. But he also acknowledged that his people do, so he has to pay attention, though her personally gives no fucks. What does that tell you? MBS is the oil guy. But his people are not. They are the "no Jews allowed" crew. He has to deal with that. The Saudi family, and other Arab elites like them, have to balance their own personal views and interests with the wider perspective lest they get thrown out.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,238 Founders Club

    Most everyone in both parties. Republicans generally suck in Congress too. We’ve been over this.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,238 Founders Club

    All of that shit exists for sure. I’d argue it partially exists as a deliberate and useful distraction to the people so that they’ll look the other way on how much oil money the guys in charge are making. And then they buy weapons with that money to further ingrain themselves. Same thing Wall Street does here and does everything they can to highlight identity politics.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,894 Standard Supporter

    The Team Dazzler left believes or at least says they do that all cultures are equal, some just have spicier food. And that spicy food is worth open borders because diversity is our strength. The one exception is the existing western Judeo-Christian culture which needs to be changed and replaced. From this you get LGBTQ∞ groups supporting Hamas and Hezbollah as being morally superior to Israeli Jews because reasons. As you said, what sane citizen would want to turn London into Londonistan or Dearborn into Dearbornistan. Afghanistan doesn't have oil and it's just a muslim sh*thole that managed to chew up a couple of trillion or so of US dollars that we refused to spend on our own borders and citizens.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273

    I think a fundamental issue exists that the interests exploit to their benefit. But I don't hold the [Marxist] theory that all morality is a construct by those in power to further their interests. Some things are beyond economics.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273
    edited December 2024

    100. And I honestly don't believe the left wants to do that either. If they were confronted with that reality they'd shit. It's just that they're too fucking stupid and arrogant to realize that they are helping it along. They also are too preoccupied with an obsession over oppressor class politics to see clearly enough that these cultures do nothing but oppress people. I don't think they believe that gay men are thrown off buildings. They think it's made up. I wish they could see it for themselves.