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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,235
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    Has Bill Fleenor indicated yet whether this season counts for Sark, or does it start next year?
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,993
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    Tequilla said:

    Think about it this way ...

    Seven had a willing group that would have thought that any coach was better than what they just had in Tyrone. Seven comes in, promotes an upbeat vibe, promotes fun, the players start enjoying the simple act of playing football again ...

    Seven is able to live off of that for a few years before everybody starts looking around and figures that the team should be better than their performance. The (Remember The) Alamo Bowl loss to Baylor gave Sark an EASY scapegoat by going after Holt and the defensive staff (EXCEPT FOR NANSEN) ...

    The next year Wilcox comes in, the defense turns things around, and the offensive struggles are blamed on a lot of young players, a young OL, etc. Nobody really questions too hard why in Year 4 Sark's OL is still terrible (see bad recruiting) ... but whatever. Then in Year 5, the whole 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 comes into play and the shine is off Sark because while the house looks great on the outside, everybody knows that 5-4 was under performance.

    So Seven takes his act down to SC, throws a few kick ass pressers while hopped up on something (allegedly) ... everything looks great when he beats Stanford (thanks to David Shaw and Kevin Hogan). The shine starts coming off when he loses to BC on the road (not surprising), particularly when you see that the BC QB couldn't throw the ball yet Seven and his staff show a continuing theme of never being able to make adjustments during the game. They blow a game to a ASU team that not only were they 2 scores ahead of with the ball and 3 minutes to play, that not only had a backup QB shred them, but also got run out of the building the week prior on NATIONAL TV to the hated cross-town rivals in UCLA.

    The SC players are one year removed from having Lane Kiffen FS being their head coach ... another Petey disciple that never understood the underlying detail underneath Petey and only saw the glitz and the glam. At what point do the SC players realize that really what they have as a coach is KiffieFS Part 2? At what point do they start to tune Seven out? At what point do they not give a shit about a 7-5 (or heaven forbid worse) record?

    Seven was able to glide free and clear at the UW for a few years simply because of the fact that not only had the program been beaten down for so long that any winning was considered good, but there were a lot of idiots that had forgotten the reasons behind winning football. He won't get away with that shit down in LA though because SC's one of those programs where most of the alumni know what good football looks like. And they know what they are seeing right is slop. They know they are seeing lipstick on a pig.

    As always, praise be to PatHadenFS.

    Everyone just picked up and ran with that 3 minutes left, possession and up two scores thing.

    But it didn't happen. As epic as the collapse was the last time USC had the ball up two scores was 6:30 to go when Kessler quick kicked for 16 yards.
    Disagree. USC scored a TD with 3:02 remaining to make it 34-25 otherwise known as being up by 2 scores.

    scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=400548275

    And yes, ESPN is my source.
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    TierbsHsotBoobsTierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
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    Tequilla said:

    Think about it this way ...

    Seven had a willing group that would have thought that any coach was better than what they just had in Tyrone. Seven comes in, promotes an upbeat vibe, promotes fun, the players start enjoying the simple act of playing football again ...

    Seven is able to live off of that for a few years before everybody starts looking around and figures that the team should be better than their performance. The (Remember The) Alamo Bowl loss to Baylor gave Sark an EASY scapegoat by going after Holt and the defensive staff (EXCEPT FOR NANSEN) ...

    The next year Wilcox comes in, the defense turns things around, and the offensive struggles are blamed on a lot of young players, a young OL, etc. Nobody really questions too hard why in Year 4 Sark's OL is still terrible (see bad recruiting) ... but whatever. Then in Year 5, the whole 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 comes into play and the shine is off Sark because while the house looks great on the outside, everybody knows that 5-4 was under performance.

    So Seven takes his act down to SC, throws a few kick ass pressers while hopped up on something (allegedly) ... everything looks great when he beats Stanford (thanks to David Shaw and Kevin Hogan). The shine starts coming off when he loses to BC on the road (not surprising), particularly when you see that the BC QB couldn't throw the ball yet Seven and his staff show a continuing theme of never being able to make adjustments during the game. They blow a game to a ASU team that not only were they 2 scores ahead of with the ball and 3 minutes to play, that not only had a backup QB shred them, but also got run out of the building the week prior on NATIONAL TV to the hated cross-town rivals in UCLA.

    The SC players are one year removed from having Lane Kiffen FS being their head coach ... another Petey disciple that never understood the underlying detail underneath Petey and only saw the glitz and the glam. At what point do the SC players realize that really what they have as a coach is KiffieFS Part 2? At what point do they start to tune Seven out? At what point do they not give a shit about a 7-5 (or heaven forbid worse) record?

    Seven was able to glide free and clear at the UW for a few years simply because of the fact that not only had the program been beaten down for so long that any winning was considered good, but there were a lot of idiots that had forgotten the reasons behind winning football. He won't get away with that shit down in LA though because SC's one of those programs where most of the alumni know what good football looks like. And they know what they are seeing right is slop. They know they are seeing lipstick on a pig.

    As always, praise be to PatHadenFS.

    Everyone just picked up and ran with that 3 minutes left, possession and up two scores thing.

    But it didn't happen. As epic as the collapse was the last time USC had the ball up two scores was 6:30 to go when Kessler quick kicked for 16 yards.
    Disagree. USC scored a TD with 3:02 remaining to make it 34-25 otherwise known as being up by 2 scores.

    scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=400548275

    And yes, ESPN is my source.
    He said "had the ball up two scores"
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    LoneStarDawgLoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,129
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    When he housed that run, I was wondering if he should have taken a knee at the 5.

    But (josh) Shirley USC couldn't lose after that...

    Rofl
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    DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 60,235
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    Bleenor saying Sark's first three years didn't count was some funny chit.

    I should run a front page article saying that the clock on Petersen doesn't start running until 2017.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Bleenor saying Sark's first three years didn't count was some funny chit.

    I should run a front page article saying that the clock on Petersen doesn't start running until 2017.
    That would be a good one to save when there is a coaching change at one of the coordinator positions. "I don't count Petersen's first two years because Jonathon Smith was his oc."
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    CFetters_Nacho_LoverCFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 28,993
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    Tequilla said:

    Think about it this way ...

    Seven had a willing group that would have thought that any coach was better than what they just had in Tyrone. Seven comes in, promotes an upbeat vibe, promotes fun, the players start enjoying the simple act of playing football again ...

    Seven is able to live off of that for a few years before everybody starts looking around and figures that the team should be better than their performance. The (Remember The) Alamo Bowl loss to Baylor gave Sark an EASY scapegoat by going after Holt and the defensive staff (EXCEPT FOR NANSEN) ...

    The next year Wilcox comes in, the defense turns things around, and the offensive struggles are blamed on a lot of young players, a young OL, etc. Nobody really questions too hard why in Year 4 Sark's OL is still terrible (see bad recruiting) ... but whatever. Then in Year 5, the whole 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 > 5-4 comes into play and the shine is off Sark because while the house looks great on the outside, everybody knows that 5-4 was under performance.

    So Seven takes his act down to SC, throws a few kick ass pressers while hopped up on something (allegedly) ... everything looks great when he beats Stanford (thanks to David Shaw and Kevin Hogan). The shine starts coming off when he loses to BC on the road (not surprising), particularly when you see that the BC QB couldn't throw the ball yet Seven and his staff show a continuing theme of never being able to make adjustments during the game. They blow a game to a ASU team that not only were they 2 scores ahead of with the ball and 3 minutes to play, that not only had a backup QB shred them, but also got run out of the building the week prior on NATIONAL TV to the hated cross-town rivals in UCLA.

    The SC players are one year removed from having Lane Kiffen FS being their head coach ... another Petey disciple that never understood the underlying detail underneath Petey and only saw the glitz and the glam. At what point do the SC players realize that really what they have as a coach is KiffieFS Part 2? At what point do they start to tune Seven out? At what point do they not give a shit about a 7-5 (or heaven forbid worse) record?

    Seven was able to glide free and clear at the UW for a few years simply because of the fact that not only had the program been beaten down for so long that any winning was considered good, but there were a lot of idiots that had forgotten the reasons behind winning football. He won't get away with that shit down in LA though because SC's one of those programs where most of the alumni know what good football looks like. And they know what they are seeing right is slop. They know they are seeing lipstick on a pig.

    As always, praise be to PatHadenFS.

    Everyone just picked up and ran with that 3 minutes left, possession and up two scores thing.

    But it didn't happen. As epic as the collapse was the last time USC had the ball up two scores was 6:30 to go when Kessler quick kicked for 16 yards.
    Disagree. USC scored a TD with 3:02 remaining to make it 34-25 otherwise known as being up by 2 scores.

    scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=400548275

    And yes, ESPN is my source.
    He said "had the ball up two scores"
    I know you're being sarcastic but I completely missed that.
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