are there any normal left leaning posters on here?
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Tell us on your own words, if you can.
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Ern is still using the same bullshit Leftist rhetoric that caused this assassination attempt and I’m supposed to unite with this moron?
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There isn't anybody 'normal' at all anywhere on this site that I've ever heard of
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Biden ticks a lot more boxes in "fascist bingo" than Trump. It really isn't close.
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Putin been at this shit for a long time, nothing is static. It has developed over time for Viktor and Vlad.
I'm talking about fascistic messaging and tactics, not the equivalence between Trump and Putin. Clearly they're at different levels.
Fascism is populism, btw. Populism isn't necessarily fascism.
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Fascism is about 4 more rungs up the authoritarian ladder than populism.
Having doubts about a razor thin 2020 election with some shady math in certain areas does not make someone fascist.
Please spell out with clear examples how Trump is fascist.
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Yes. Me.
I get it, this bored is a cum fiesta for Trump and that's fine, y'all have your space and are happy with it. I don't feel like getting into it 99% of the time, because I prefer, as a Duck that we insult and threaten each other's families over football instead of politics. But I do consider myself "normal" while having some left-leaning views and not voting for Trump.
I don't think all Republicans are Nazis, far from it. I do think MAGA is a cult of personality. I think the Democratic Party is weak, pathetic and leaderless. They've thrown their weight behind a geriatric who belongs in a nursing home and it's fucking embarrassing. They could've shut this shit down in 2016 and they didn't because instead of running Bernie, they ran literally the most hated woman in politics. I knew it was a disaster right away. Bernie's also a geriatric, but unlike Biden he's not senile, and despite being even further left, I think even some of the hardliners on this board respected him for being a decent, genuine guy trying to do what he thought was the right thing. And the DNC buttfucked him. They deserved what they got.
Trump knows exactly what he's doing. He tows the line, not actually directly calling for violence but always tiptoeing around it with a wink and a nudge. I agree with Ern above on the rhetoric. I'm over the stupid Hitler comparisons to everything because it's fucking stupid, but Trump has pulled a lot of cards from the fascist playbook (on purpose) and the MAGA crowd goes even further. That's not bullshitting, that's a direct fact. There are miles of videos and studies that show it. I don't think Trump believes any of this shit. He's certainly not religious, he doesn't really give a fuck about Christian values/evangelicalism and couldn't care less about things like immigration. He's in it for himself and that's it. I think he's in the discussion as the greatest conman who ever lived. I don't think he even expected to win in 2016, but when he found out he could just say extreme shit all the time and people would lap it up, he knew he had something. That then evolved into him making his supporters believe him, and only him as the trusted source of news. Everyone else is the enemy.
I already thought he'd probably win this time if the Democrats didn't figure their shit out, and now after that shitshow of a debate and now this, he's probably got it locked unless the Dems pull the nuclear option and throw in someone out of left field who can ignite them the same way. Which they probably won't and at this point it's too late anyway. They'll run the fucking skeleton or on the 1% chance they don't, they'll run Kamala's stupid ass, they'll lose and then the Dems will all look around crying "whut happen?!?!" and proceed to do nothing about it.
I just miss the days where we cared more about binders full of women, who Bill was putting his dick in and a guy screaming YEAAAHH at a rally than this shit. This is just absurd how stupid things have gotten. I fucking hate the Democratic party as it exists today for its weakness and its misguided priorities, and watching Biden is a perpetual embarrassment. Trump, while I won't support him, doesn't scare me so much as MAGA does. MAGA scares the shit out of me with some of the policies they want to implement, and makes me genuinely worry for the future of this country if they get their way. The hypocrisy of their views when contrasted with their "Christian" ideologies is something I don't have any respect for. That's my opinion. I don't think I'm a nutjob for having that viewpoint.
Fuck off vote me if you want, but that's where I stand since PGOS asked. Thank you and DIAFF
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That's great and all. This board needs more leftists pushing back on the circle jerk.
But I'm still waiting on the facts that make Trump a fascist.
Tick tick
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but Trump has pulled a lot of cards from the fascist playbook (on purpose)
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Just because you post these things doesn’t make them true.
Merrick Garland is locking up Trump associates, Biden/Garland/Wray is raiding Trump’s home and then arresting him for classified documents that Joe had illegally in his possession, and Trump supporters by the hundreds while ignoring the same crimes being committed by even himself.
Such a long rant to prove in a few words I excerpted that you’re just as ridiculous with the “fascist” nonsense as any other Leftist here.
Welcome to The Tug, dumbass.
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Didn't say he was a fascist. He doesn't give a fuck about it, he's in this for the attention and nothing else. I said he pulls cards from the playbook on purpose to rile people up, for that reason. He knows his fanbase and knows exactly what to say to whip them into a frenzy. That's why MAGA bothers me more than he does, because a lot of them actually do believe that shit.
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So what is it when Biden calls Trump a “literal threat to our country” just a few weeks ago and labels all Trump supporters as “terrorists?”
Is that not red meat for incurious Braindeads on the Left such as you? Those aren’t policy statements. They are solely to stir anger in his supporters, and we just saw the result of such words.
Links to these Biden comments are on this board’s front page, yet every Leftist uses “trust me bro but Trump’s a fascist” with no supporting evidence and then disappears.
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Trump's been doing that since 2015. That's the basis of his entire campaign. Any media who criticize him are the enemy of the people, which he has said about a million times now. Immigrants are poisoning the blood. So on and so forth. That's what got him elected.
I don't agree with any label calling all supporters of a political candidate "terrorists." But let's not act like this is anything new. You can't offended if the other side starts hitting back.
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Trump was hated because they didn’t have any dirt on him. Then they poured on the propaganda to get the sheep like Erin to follow.
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Okay...what tactics are coming from the fascist playbook?
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You could watch the video and you'd understand where I'm coming from because I know you're a smart guy. It's stupid to try and sell anyone here. Figured a video might help since it's not coming from a Tug lib. Maybe someone will choose to watch it, IDGAF.
I'll throw something out though.
It's not Trump, per se, it's the movement and the puppet masters. Trump is just the narcissistic empty vessel that wants to save and shield his own ass, being controlled and influenced by whoever. I genuinely don't think he's hugely evil at his core. But the movement he represents and the people controlling him are. He was installed. He's fully open to it, and that's why he sucks.
Anti-immigrant rhetoric, anti-LGBT rhetoric, pro-white Christian rhetoric, anti-liberal rhetoric, anti-intellectualism/science rhetoric, anti- "elite" rhetoric, political enemies rhetoric, nation in ruin rhetoric, urban centers in ruin rhetoric, massive use of propaganda, strongman idolism, symbology (the flag and the cross), nationalism, literally "make America great AGAIN" rhetoric (hearkening to an idealized past), creation of false realities through repetition. Trump being above the law, persecution complexes, victimhood, I could go on.
There's tons of fascistic shit going on in the MAGA movement and it's parroted here daily. Keeps me coming back cuz it's damn fascinating.
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Fascists control the government-media complex in their countries and investigate reporters who go against them, like the FBI did to Sheryl Atkinson, so you’re 0-1 so far on the Fascist “card” you say he’s played. Fascist point, Obama/Biden.
The media are biased toward Democrats. That’s fairly obvious and they do “democracy” an injustice on a daily basis.
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This s full of bullshit, like UA packed with meaningless buzzwords, but please explain the bolded below as Merrick Garlamd sent Bannon and Navarro to prison and is prosecuting Trump for classified document.
Reminds: Garland himself is ignoring a congressional subpoena, ignored Hunter Biden doing the same, and refused to prosecute his boss for ILLEGALLY having classified documents, which is not in dispute as neither a VP or Senator can possess them at their homes or in offices.
Anti-immigrant rhetoric, anti-LGBT rhetoric, pro-white Christian rhetoric, anti-liberal rhetoric, anti-intellectualism/science rhetoric, anti- "elite" rhetoric, political enemies rhetoric, nation in ruin rhetoric, urban centers in ruin rhetoric, massive use of propaganda, strongman idolism, symbology (the flag and the cross), nationalism, literally "make America great AGAIN" rhetoric (hearkening to an idealized past), creation of false realities through repetition. Trump being above the law, persecution complexes, victimhood, I could go on.
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One man's fascist rhetoric is another man's calling a spade a spade.
Trump has been an advocate of legal immigration. A secured border, not a free for all, for example. Is that anti immigrant? I don't think so.
Calling Washington DC a swamp is not fascist.
Trump does play the Christian right's game and gives them lip service and optics, runs with a candidate like Pence, but the man could give less of a fuck and would rather be banging bimbos, smoking weed, talking shit.
American flags aren't fascist.
Tldr - disagree.
You know what's actually fascist?
Invading another country on false pretense like Bush, Cheney, and the boys.
The Patriot Act.
Calling your opposition domestic terrorists.
Facilitating drugs to inner cities to keep poor minorities down.
Opposing the desegregation of public schools.
You know, that kind of stuff.
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”Watch the propagandist video about fascism” says the retard whining about Trump using propaganda to spread fascism.
Room temp IQ. No wonder he works in Greeny Unicorn Land.
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Why are you incapable of explaining the content that you post in a few bullet points?
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It’s a debate technique that dumb people who think they’re smart use. Throw a bunch of buzzwords/accusations into a speech/statement/post and then you don’t have to defend any of them.
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I knew that would fly over like a lead balloon.
Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Trump is not Hitler though.
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Fascistic tactics and fascism are woefully misunderstood. The MAGA movement exhibits many of the hallmarks. IDGAF what the response is.
Will you tell me how Democrats in numerous states removing Trump from their ballots, in some instances with the approval of a single judge, is an example of how to “Protect Democracy?”
Governments eliminating the leading contender from the opposing party from ballots seems fascist to me.
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Nothing is ever that simple, especially political science. I just gave my most basic bitch explanation of fascistic movements I could. It's on you to learn more. My apologies for not dumbing it down more, I guess.
If you want more material, I have tons. Lmk.
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More material but won’t answer a simple question.
How Does Democrat politicians and judges removing Trump from state presidential ballots “Protect Democracy?”
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You are completely unworthy of any response ever so you might as well take your efforts elsewhere in the interest of your own time.
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Ern won’t answer the question because he can’t do so without admitting it is literally anti-Democratic at best and is hardcore totalitarianism/fascism.
Predictable response from just another Leftist Lightweight, though. I can spot one from Day One, @Bob_C.
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You are far more eloquent than me, but I feel like you're inside my head. I was a Bernie man myself, and that motherfucker was the good side of populism. A benevolent populism, speaking to the exact concerns that everybody has right now, on both sides. He was fucking robbed for Hillary. I had to vote for Hillary considering the alternative but god damnit.
Incredible post, you're my new fave Duck. You get it.
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I mean, you could try a rebuttal to my post.
I'm not watching your video. If you can't make 4 to 5 bullet points of concise information, that doesn't reflect well on your argument.
Spouting a bunch of isms ain't it
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You know what the argument is. DucksFC and I just said the same thing in a ton of different words. He did better than I. Not sure what you're lacking or sad about.
