Expectations
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they don’t call him 7 win fisch for nothing
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4-8 is realistic
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There is a lot of luck involved. Sometimes coaches with the perfect resume still fail. Because they got lucky with some kind of circumstances at the previous stop. Or some small change early in their tenure set them on a completely different course.
It’s always a crapshoot and most of it doesn’t end up making sense except in hindsight.
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I could see losing to Coug. It’s their Super Bowl are we are YOUNG and fisch needs time to get his guys in there
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I don't think you can luck your way into a 10 win season at a basketball school that bottomed out and then go beat Oklahoma in a bowl but in general yes I agree. He did dodge Oregon, but he also gave away a wins @ SC and MudDawg. DeBoer couldn't even prison rape Utah at home the way he did in SLC.
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I don’t think you can have that kind of turnaround without a lot of luck.
What if Fifita had gotten a USC or UCLA offer and he never gets the servite trio? There are a million other what ifs. It’s a cutthroat business with an extremely small margin for error.Fisch has about the best chance of any new hire given he did have success once already at the P5 level but there have been plenty of other coaches like that that failed and ended up forgotten.
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After we beat Arizona a bunch of people here were joking that that we were close to losing to a MW/G5 quarterback. Now some were pissed that he didn't bring him over here.
Fisch's staff out-scouted to get them where they are, mixing in a few victories like McMillan.
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He's clearly a good coach, they actually played defense, which nobody seems to talk about.
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There's luck involved in everything so playing some of these what ifs is pointless. What we do know is what happened with Fisch taking over as bad of a program as the conference ever had, instantly made them better then led them to one of the best seasons the program has ever had in one of the strongest seasons in conference history. He also recruited/developed a handful of draft picks at a program that really struggled to do that in recent history.
Rewatching the Arizona/UW games from the past two years, both times his teams were out of it but they stayed steady and consistent and got back in the game late.
They played the Kwiatkowski prevent D as well as anyone and forced UW to just take small shots mostly and tackled well while locking up Odunze and Polk as well as anyone did. I'd be very interested how the defense was run. I can't get myself to believe Nansen could do shit as a DC, so was Fisch also overlooking that unit?
Fifita played well but he was put in really good positions with the scheme and his pieces around him. de Laura rightfully gets a lot of shit and was a loose cannon but he was even better in Husky Stadium in 2022 than Fifita was in 2023.
Would have been crazy interesting had they not lost to USC in 3OT and it was a rematch with them in Vegas.
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Of course, but I was responding to a post that said it wouldn’t “make any sense” to succeed at Arizona and then fail at Washington.
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Yeah this is very true. Success or failure isn't an exact science in college football coaching and you need luck. DeBoer is a good example. I have to think he didn't know Penix could be as great as he was. So if Penix is just as good as he seemed at Indiana and/or gets hurt or he gets Haener instead of him, I have to think he wins 8-9 games the past couple of years and is still coaching at UW as a minor success.
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DeBoer couldn't even make it to a Mountain West championship game.
Because he got beat down by the same boring style of offense and defense that he faced a couple times in the Pac 12 and in the NCG.
