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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    I know.

    You girls were just looking for a place to flex your outrage muscle and I'm a kill joy.

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    Maybe your community and schools are doing a better job than the district in question.

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    EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 1,748
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    Autism and abortion are H’s apparently flash points of anger.

    Now that’s interesting…

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    So not interesting . . . but interesting.

    Make up your mind, lady.

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,015
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    I'm sure this "student" has had severe disciplinary problems since kindergarten and any attempt at discipline would have been met with a lawsuit while the dazzler cheered on all attempts to impose any discipline. Look at Trademark Martin. Broken family with no parental discipline with severe problems at school that resulted in some meaningless suspensions and no criminal charges. Team dazzler has limited the ability to discipline students and then wants to sue the school for failure to discipline.

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,015
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    I blame the victim's parents for not relying on the school to properly handle the criminal assault.

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    BlueduckBlueduck Member Posts: 1,104
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    I always find it curious that your go-to attempt to insult some poasters on this bored is the feminine put down.

    The Psychology behind this is pretty clucking funny. (Pun intended)

    On another note, I have a riddle for you...

    One day you are noticing things happening in strange sequences far out of the ordinary.

    You start to suspect you have been caught in a time reversal paradox but can't be sure.

    Assuming you could without forgetting what you were trying to do in the moment.....How do you prove you are in a time reversal paradox?

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    georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,625
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    Wow- autistic children could be prone to violence. Hmm- he could have known that- maybe the parent(s)? Good job on letting an autistic 18 y/o manchild take a game console to school. Solid Biden voters there.

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    Severely autistic kid with committed parents is just like neglected neurotypical kid from a broken home, Gasbag offered helpfully.

    Great apples to dogshit comparison, of course.

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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 14,015
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    "…with committed parents…" Link. I know lots of no committed parents who would send their "gentle giant" off to school with a Nintendo and then blame the teacher and the school when he almost beats her to death. Of course to a leftard, "committed" has a different meaning that is devoid of common sense.

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    Good point! How could anyone trained in special education possibly know anything about autism?

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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    “Most likely not realizing that his teacher was going against Brendan’s IEP, the teacher requested that Brendan’s Nintendo Switch be sent into school daily.

    The group home’s behavioral analyst reluctantly and prematurely went along with this request. It was premature, because the IEP team had not been consulted.


    Reading is FUNdamental, Gasbag.

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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,605
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    he most likely should be put down. Can’t be controlled. Institutionalization is too expensive.

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    EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 1,748
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    My takeaway is H has an autistic kid he deep down wishes had been aborted. Just based on what he actually takes the time to post about instead of straight to insults.

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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,309
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    Sure.Gif

    I notice you haven't contributed to the discussion of sources.

    Avoiding That like the plague.

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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,067
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    The one point that has merit worth discussing HH mentioned is that the schools are being asked to educate kids with all manner of serious behavioral and/or mental issues. I know nothing about this kid, but being married to an educator has opened my eyes to what we expect of schools/teachers/administrators. Some serious mental issues (and many with violent tendencies) being pushed through a system that is completely underfunded and incapable of dealing with them. Typical elementary school around here has one behavioral specialist that is shared amongst two other schools, and all three of the schools have over a dozen "serious instability kids." That is code for "future prison inmate." Specialist may get 20 minutes a week with many of them. Throw in ESL and typical classroom clown stuff and schools are usually completely overwhelmed and totally understaffed for dealing with many of these kids.

    HH is correct though, WE as a society have said "we must educate all kids!" But it is sort of like prison, we know we want people locked up and are then happy it is out of sight out of mind. Schools are much the same way. Many of them are little mini war zones where everyone - teachers, admin, students (good and bad) and parents are all struggling together. Generally speaking, parents of the "at risk kids" are beyond shitty now. Useless in most cases. "Can you fix my kid?" Not "what can I do to fix my kid." It's a mess. So, I think the conversation we need to be having as a society, but won't, is what kids are worth saving. Plain and simple many of these kids are never going to contribute meaningfully to society, and everyone knows it by third grade. Parents are a mess, Dad's in prison, Mom is a welfare lay about, and junior is an unholy terror at school complete with throwing tables and chairs - yet we still try to find a way to contain these little menace creatures enough to not seriously injure anyone while they ruin the classroom experience for all the other kids who might actually want to learn.

    Our county has a special classroom segment where they send the absolute terrors. All of them go to one school to keep them contained together. Like a zoo for shitheads. But, the program is over capacity so even after a year of testing when it is found that a child should be placed in this special setting there is no room. So they are left in GenEd to create havok for everyone forever. Every school has a student resource officer (a cop) and none of them are allowed to even touch an unruly child. What a bizarre world we live in. Anyway these are the discussions we should be having. What are the limits of responsibility for a school district? What are parental responsibilities? When can a student be cut loose for the greater good? None of these discussions will ever be had of course, because an army of shit lawyers are hovering looking for any reason to sue a school district for a payday, and so schools will by and large stay shitty menace incubators and glorified kid care romper rooms while staff burnout, teachers leaving the profession and violent children hurting others continue to skyrocket.

    This particular man-beast who assaulted the teacher should go to prison for years. Any attempt to place the blame on the school is a farce.

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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,067
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    Excellent point. My shitpost above never clearly makes this point, but it is an absolute no-win situation for many school districts. Underfunded, scared of lawsuits and absolutely ZERO ability to discipline kids at all (I mean there is NO discipline in schools anymore - it is shocking to someone who went to school in Texas in the 80s where they still whipped our asses and guess what classrooms were quiet, weird).

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    georgiaduckgeorgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,625
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    A woman I know is a teacher in North Carolina. She told me in her district if the teacher/admin suggests counseling for a student, the District is on the hook for the bill.

    Some incentive to get involved.

    That's ok- it's only 20 or 25 to one ratio of teacher student ratio. No need to have parents be involved here- Until there's a check to be cut from a payout.

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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,309
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,276
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    I dare you to read the mother’s post and tell me she was uninvolved with her kid. Whether a kid with these issues should be in a regular school environment is, as Swaye has also pointed out, a legitimate question. The mom had those doubts herself but no great alternatives.

    You can’t counsel autistic kids not to be disabled, unfortunately. If you are charged with their education, it requires a fairly active and strategic approach.

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