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Jobless Claims 187,000
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Sep 2019 (Trumps Best Month)
US Population: 328 million
Labor Participation Rate: 63.1
UnEmployment Rate: 3.5%
Total Labor Force: 207 million
Unemployed: 7.2 million
Dec 2023 (Last Month)
Us Population: 340 Million
Labor Participation Rate: 62.5
Unemployment rate: 3.7
Total Labor Force: 212 million
Unemployed: 7.8 million
Ok boys.....tell me which number I need to adjust to make your math work. How in God's name did you get 7% or 10%? Arbitrarily?
Please tell me you guys arent the dipshits those 3 Oregon fans are.
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That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm. -
Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm. -
Lol you are this fucking dense. Go reread the thread however many times you need to and maybe put the Adderall down, or snort another line. Whichever.HuskyBuck said:
Sep 2019 (Trumps Best Month)
US Population: 328 million
Labor Participation Rate: 63.1
UnEmployment Rate: 3.5%
Total Labor Force: 207 million
Unemployed: 7.2 million
Dec 2023 (Last Month)
Us Population: 340 Million
Labor Participation Rate: 62.5
Unemployment rate: 3.7
Total Labor Force: 212 million
Unemployed: 7.8 million
Ok boys.....tell me which number I need to adjust to make your math work. How in God's name did you get 7% or 10%? Arbitrarily?
Please tell me you guys arent the dipshits those 3 Oregon fans are.
Your clue should have been when Margaret @HHusky gave the talking point up and conceded. -
I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.HuskyBuck said:
Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.
None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy. -
Where is that....where did you get that 5.7 million number? Out your ass? Its amazing how you cant take us through your thought process when challenged. There's a lot of that on this board!!!UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.HuskyBuck said:
Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.
None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.
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From the BLS, how many times you want me to cite it and Quote myself from this thread.HuskyBuck said:
Where is that....where did you get that 5.7 million number? Out your ass? Its amazing how you cant take us through your thought process when challenged. There's a lot of that on this board!!!UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.HuskyBuck said:
Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.
None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.
Holy fucking reading comprehension batman. -
Go ahead and cite it then! Lets see it!
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When illegal immigration is flat and low, I agree it's probably not super material. But when it spikes like it has, short term it has to be going up. It's also quite inflationary to have people sucking up services, spending money and producing nothing.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm. -
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjDj9jTzuyDAxUkMEQIHU8cDiMQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0El9HPDNwCkjhZ_HvoSxIUHuskyBuck said:Go ahead and cite it then! Lets see it!
Same link I've posted at least 3 times. BLS.
I'll clean it up when I'm not on mobile and make a nice chart maybe. I'm happy to compare apples to apples.
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From that report Doog just cited (and deleted)
1.2 million is the number of long term unemployed workers with the last report.
He was trying to make the claim it was 5.7 million.
Don’t worry Doog….i saw your mistake on your deleted post and was happy to report it
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Haven't deleted anything but OK!HuskyBuck said:From that report Doog just cited (and deleted)
1.2 million is the number of long term unemployed workers with the last report.
He was trying to make the claim it was 5.7 million.
Don’t worry Doog….i saw your mistake on your deleted post and was happy to report it -
Read it again.
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Tbf I mixed my terms. Being on Mobile and BLS changed their reporting formats...for some reason.Bob_C said:Read it again.
Like I said, I'll clean it up out there and be sure we are being honest and fair when presented with Facts and Evidence! TM -
Ok let’s add the 5.7 million back to the labor participation rate and unemployed numbers and assume NONE of them can get a job. I still don’t get 7%-10%
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Meanwhile REI is laying off 350 workers, forecasting a bad 2024.
But hey, maybe their stock will rise in Q3 & Q4, so it's all good.
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The stock market tends to like layoffsTurdBomber said:Meanwhile REI is laying off 350 workers, forecasting a bad 2024.
But hey, maybe their stock will rise in Q3 & Q4, so it's all good.
Nevermind Main Street and the jobs on it. -
The irony never stops around here.HuskyBuck said:
Where is that....where did you get that 5.7 million number? Out your ass? Its amazing how you cant take us through your thought process when challenged. There's a lot of that on this board!!!UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm responding to Bob and just musing about the effect of illegals on employment numbers. Hth.HuskyBuck said:
Boy thats a lot of fantasy land hoops I need to jump through to believe. Its weird you guys can't pull actual data I can validate and verify with. Weird.UW_Doog_Bot said:
That would be extremely hard to nail down in all honesty, I would guess that aside from "sanctuary cities" the illegal immigration participation numbers would be higher per capita but would be lots of grey and black market employees.Bob_C said:
Then again, most of them use fake broken ladder identities of the deceased to work so maybe they are counted. Who fucking knows.
It would be a fun regression worthy of doing my PhD in.
All that being said, Joe Biden's economy sucks ass. It's why even the Whitehouse gave up messaging on it. If it were doing well we wouldn't hear the end of it from the msm.
None of it has to do with the 5.7 million long term unemployed in Biden's roaring economy.
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There's some math, not 7% but it's over 6%.
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Yes it does. That's why Buck the Barebacker of @HHusky is slamming his ham right now.RaceBannon said:
The stock market tends to like layoffsTurdBomber said:Meanwhile REI is laying off 350 workers, forecasting a bad 2024.
But hey, maybe their stock will rise in Q3 & Q4, so it's all good.
Nevermind Main Street and the jobs on it.
Wall Street vs. Main Street. -
I'm actually impressed the numbers are that good ~1.5m is still significant but not terrible. I can only imagine how many private sector jobs were traded for government ones though. Be curious to break that out.Bob_C said:There's some math, not 7% but it's over 6%.
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I’m sure it’s significant. What’s likely also significant is the growth quasi private sector jobs, NGO’s, etc that rely on government money 100% for their existence. Some of that gets buried in the private sector.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm actually impressed the numbers are that good ~1.5m is still significant but not terrible. I can only imagine how many private sector jobs were traded for government ones though. Be curious to break that out.Bob_C said:There's some math, not 7% but it's over 6%.
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Shh those long term unemployed that get removed from the stats don't exist. Cut off their guberment cheese and see how quick they look for work! HuskyDuck says they don't exist. Obama created them.UW_Doog_Bot said:
5.7 million long term unemployed(which aren't counted in your 3.5% number).UW_Doog_Bot said:
I did that math off the cuff in my head.UW_Doog_Bot said:
So about 3 million less participants in total. Which means true unemployment is actually somewhere around 7%.HuskyBuck said:
So is Labor Participation up since January 2021? According to that chart it looks like its trending upwards just like it was doing under Trump.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Same game as under Obama.WestlinnDuck said:Labor participation rate is still down since January 2020 and not trending well. Couldn't find a chart on the Sugar Bowl participation rate which is the gold standard of course for the status of the economy.
The unemployment rate is so low! If you don't count all the people who are long term unemployed.
Here's what Labor Participation rate did from when Trump was in office, to Janurary 2020 which was right before pandemic hit
Trump:
Jan 2017. - 62.8
Jan 2020 - 63.3
Biden:
Jan 2021 - 61.5
Now - 62.5
This is why I call you Oregon fans dumb as dirt. You can't intrepret a chart.
Something Something dumb as dirt.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjDj9jTzuyDAxUkMEQIHU8cDiMQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0El9HPDNwCkjhZ_HvoSxIU
Come get some.
Also, lulz, about that trend.
Fucking love it when tug smooth brains want to wrastle economics with me.
As opposed to 2019 there being 1.2 million...
https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2020/article/job-market-remains-tight-in-2019-as-the-unemployment-rate-falls-to-its-lowest-level-since-1969.htm
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Before the gross number is ultimately revised down by ~20% or so, We’re averaging 50k new government jobs per month.Bob_C said:
I’m sure it’s significant. What’s likely also significant is the growth quasi private sector jobs, NGO’s, etc that rely on government money 100% for their existence. Some of that gets buried in the private sector.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I'm actually impressed the numbers are that good ~1.5m is still significant but not terrible. I can only imagine how many private sector jobs were traded for government ones though. Be curious to break that out.Bob_C said:There's some math, not 7% but it's over 6%.
That’s nearly 1/3 of the overall figure. Then you account for part time work and subtract union workers returning from strikes it gets even worse.
The takers are outpacing the makers, and 20-something idiots like HuskyBuck are running victory laps. -
Lol man those numbers must have really hurt you guys yesterday. I already caught Doog trying to fudge some of the numbers yesterday. Guys, its just time to take the ‘L’ and move on.
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1.5m more people out of work that want a job is a loss for you. Hope that helps.HuskyBuck said:Lol man those numbers must have really hurt you guys yesterday. I already caught Doog trying to fudge some of the numbers yesterday. Guys, its just time to take the ‘L’ and move on.
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Bless your heart.HuskyBuck said:Lol man those numbers must have really hurt you guys yesterday. I already caught Doog trying to fudge some of the numbers yesterday. Guys, its just time to take the ‘L’ and move on.
They actually hurt you, but you’re too unsophisticated to realize it.
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Who needs family wage jobs and export revenue and personal income taxes and corporate income taxes? Sending US natural gas to the chicoms to replace coal fired electric plants would cut CO2 emissions. But actually solving a supposed problem this will make the supposed problem worse and cost US jobs. Nothing says SCIENCE and carrying for the average joe than the green gaia fraudsters.
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/biden-set-announce-lng-export-ban-appease-climate-warriors-ahead-election
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Would you just LOOK at those wage increases!pawz said:
Bidenomics fuck yeah!
How could you NOT win in this economy?
