Coach Petersen was FIRST and RIGHT
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Exhibit A of short-term fallacy thinking. None of this shit is going to change overnight - we're all addicted and the behavior of the current generation of fans likely won't change too drastically. Damn near every one of us is still going to tune in in the fall, and TV viewership numbers will continue to look good.Seven_Eleven said:This isn't changing. Get used to it, or stop watching if you want, but the idea that people are going to walk away from the sport en masse is wishful thinking brought on because we are on the sphincter end of a balls deep ass-raping. The playoff, conference consolidation/relegation paid college players, etc. is going to draw eyes to the sport. Controversy and turmoil it causes will only create more conversation and eyes as people love controversy and tune it to it way more than they do when things are calm.
The fans walking away talk is the same as people that say they are leaving the country based on election results. It doesn't happen.
The problem is where the sport is going 20-30 years from now and beyond. We all got hooked on a college football product that emphasized program building and school loyalty - the core parts of a pageantry that set CFB apart from any professional sport and made it a genuinely unique product. That's not what a new generation of fan is being introduced too. Instead what they see is unlimited free agency, 30%+ roster turnover, and a relatively high frequency where a single player wears a jersey for three or more schools during his career. We can only speculate how that'll impact the staying power of college football, but I'd be willing to bet that a sport that more resembles a bastardized NFL with objectively worse game play is not going to sink its hooks into fans to the extent that it did in generation's past. It'll bleed out slowly and die. Race will probably outlive it. -
I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
But the bowl games created big messes and left everyone frustrated. Remember 1984? Or 1991? Even though UW lost to Michigan a couple of weeks ago, at least it was settled on the field. It would suck to have had two undefeated teams and wondering how a game would have gone.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
College football by many metrics I believe is the second-most popular sport in America and it didn't defend it's brand at all once the media started circling on things. the dumbass grad transfer rule was the first thing I really thought started to fuck things up. It made no sense and was a slippery slope thing. I don't hate hate the playoff, but I think having more than 6 teams max was the move. I also think they underrated the value in having every game be the playoff and the possibility for multiple champions - that allows multiple fanbases to be more invigorated and for debate, and all we want to do now is debate shit.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
It was frustrating at times, but a good kind of frustrating. And I say that as a fan of a team that got screwed in 1984.HFNY said:
But the bowl games created big messes and left everyone frustrated. Remember 1984? Or 1991? Even though UW lost to Michigan a couple of weeks ago, at least it was settled on the field. It would suck to have had two undefeated teams and wondering how a game would have gone.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
That was the beauty of itHFNY said:
But the bowl games created big messes and left everyone frustrated. Remember 1984? Or 1991? Even though UW lost to Michigan a couple of weeks ago, at least it was settled on the field. It would suck to have had two undefeated teams and wondering how a game would have gone.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS?
We're still talking about it -
EXACTLY! How well do fan bases remember even bowl loses compared to NFL fans and playoff games? Ironically this would have been the rare year where we would have gotten a true national championship from a traditional bowl matchup. Wasn't it somewhat possible to shirt matchups to set up basically championship games in years it was needed? I thought I remembered that Washington wanted to play Miami somewhere in 91 but Miami wanted the Orange Bowl guaranteed win.RaceBannon said:
That was the beauty of itHFNY said:
But the bowl games created big messes and left everyone frustrated. Remember 1984? Or 1991? Even though UW lost to Michigan a couple of weeks ago, at least it was settled on the field. It would suck to have had two undefeated teams and wondering how a game would have gone.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS?
We're still talking about it -
100%, boss.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Exhibit A of short-term fallacy thinking. None of this shit is going to change overnight - we're all addicted and the behavior of the current generation of fans likely won't change too drastically. Damn near every one of us is still going to tune in in the fall, and TV viewership numbers will continue to look good.Seven_Eleven said:This isn't changing. Get used to it, or stop watching if you want, but the idea that people are going to walk away from the sport en masse is wishful thinking brought on because we are on the sphincter end of a balls deep ass-raping. The playoff, conference consolidation/relegation paid college players, etc. is going to draw eyes to the sport. Controversy and turmoil it causes will only create more conversation and eyes as people love controversy and tune it to it way more than they do when things are calm.
The fans walking away talk is the same as people that say they are leaving the country based on election results. It doesn't happen.
The problem is where the sport is going 20-30 years from now and beyond. We all got hooked on a college football product that emphasized program building and school loyalty - the core parts of a pageantry that set CFB apart from any professional sport and made it a genuinely unique product. That's not what a new generation of fan is being introduced too. Instead what they see is unlimited free agency, 30%+ roster turnover, and a relatively high frequency where a single player wears a jersey for three or more schools during his career. We can only speculate how that'll impact the staying power of college football, but I'd be willing to bet that a sport that more resembles a bastardized NFL with objectively worse game play is not going to sink its hooks into fans to the extent that it did in generation's past. It'll bleed out slowly and die. Race will probably outlive it.
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No other sport is driven by the off-season natty. The minor bowl system has fed over 5,000 off-season natties in the last 15 years. Many by Oregon.WoolleyDoog said:
College football by many metrics I believe is the second-most popular sport in America and it didn't defend it's brand at all once the media started circling on things. the dumbass grad transfer rule was the first thing I really thought started to fuck things up. It made no sense and was a slippery slope thing. I don't hate hate the playoff, but I think having more than 6 teams max was the move. I also think they underrated the value in having every game be the playoff and the possibility for multiple champions - that allows multiple fanbases to be more invigorated and for debate, and all we want to do now is debate shit.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
All they needed to do was add a +1 championship game AFTER the bowls instead of part of the bowls.HFNY said:
But the bowl games created big messes and left everyone frustrated. Remember 1984? Or 1991? Even though UW lost to Michigan a couple of weeks ago, at least it was settled on the field. It would suck to have had two undefeated teams and wondering how a game would have gone.RaceBannon said:I might but I've seen college football change from
Of course we're not the NFL we were fucking cheerleaders while the NFL was still in Daddy's ball sack
To the modern era of
WE NEED A REAL CHAMPION
I'm on record as college football being dead already. It just doesn't know it
I actually don't care about NIL or the portal. I think college ball could survive that
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS? -
Even if revisions are made, CFB probably goes down the path of the NBA and CBB. Compare NBA ratings from 30 years ago to today. The things that make CFB unique like tradition, especially the band, have been hijacked by boat races on the jumbotron, blasting top 40 music, and some jackass yelling, "THIRD DOWN!!!" during every single third down when the home team is on defense. It might have been tolerable five years ago, but now guys just jump ship at a whim. I enjoy tracking a guy from high school, through the four or five years, and watching the development, not some mercenary who skips most bowel games. The people who defend it usually also defend Willingham and blame fans for not being loyal to owen twelve seasons.
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Basketball sucks. Basketball on grass has to be worse.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Even if revisions are made, CFB probably goes down the path of the NBA and CBB. Compare NBA ratings from 30 years ago to today. The things that make CFB unique like tradition, especially the band, have been hijacked by boat races on the jumbotron, blasting top 40 music, and some jackass yelling, "THIRD DOWN!!!" during every single third down when the home team is on defense. It might have been tolerable five years ago, but now guys just jump ship at a whim. I enjoy tracking a guy from high school, through the four or five years, and watching the development, not some mercenary who skips most bowel games. The people who defend it usually also defend Willingham and blame fans for not being loyal to owen twelve seasons.
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College basketball sucks now. The format of March Madness is great but even that gets less fun every year since the teams are nothing but guys who play for a different team every year. College football should have seen this and ran away from unregulated transferring as much as possible.TheHB said:
Basketball sucks. Basketball on grass has to be worse.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Even if revisions are made, CFB probably goes down the path of the NBA and CBB. Compare NBA ratings from 30 years ago to today. The things that make CFB unique like tradition, especially the band, have been hijacked by boat races on the jumbotron, blasting top 40 music, and some jackass yelling, "THIRD DOWN!!!" during every single third down when the home team is on defense. It might have been tolerable five years ago, but now guys just jump ship at a whim. I enjoy tracking a guy from high school, through the four or five years, and watching the development, not some mercenary who skips most bowel games. The people who defend it usually also defend Willingham and blame fans for not being loyal to owen twelve seasons.
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You can’t claim .5 NC with playoffs, Mr. Bacon.RaceBannon said:
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS?
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Fuck off duckDoogWhisperer said:
You can’t claim .5 NC with playoffs, Mr. Bacon.RaceBannon said:
It's the playoffs that killed it and made it NFL lite
PLAYOFFS?
