Hard to overstate how unprepared DeBoer is for the job he just took
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Way to stay Positive.RaceBannon said:Texas is our new friend
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Well to be the guy to follow "The Guy" isn't going to be easy. Especially since Georgia had already taken the crown from the king. Trust me, the SEC fans are nuts. I know, I am one. Losing Spurrier hurt, we still haven't replaced that man.
Yes I know Urban won two titles. But he was a six year dude. Spurrier built the program from what if, to this is the standard. Tide fans had Bear, but nobody else came close to him until Nick did better. DeBoer isn't matching that. He isn't going to have five stars stacked up like Nick. Especially in this era, especially in the SEC.
My guess is Bama does what LSU does. They are always talented, but will only be serious challengers every other year. No six titles in ten years. Nobody is pulling that off. Not Bama, Michigan, Clemson, Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, FSU, USC, Georgia. -
Did Deboer tear down the roster when he got to UW? How much turnover was there?
A big portion of what's going on at Bama is out of his control, but he doesn't seem to be doing shit to stop it either. -
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why do you hate the Legend?creepycoug said:
Depends on what you mean by traditional. Bama is now in its own class apart from literally everybody else due to what Saban did there. Before that, it was very debatable. I grew up with Bama being little more than Ok but for a short run with Gene Stallings, who was a good coach. But it was a blip.Sandra6 said:
Yes, but UF, FSU and Miami all love to live under some delusion that they're traditional powers.FremontTroll said:
Bama and Florida’s histories aren’t comparable in any way.AtomicDawg said:He is going to a fanbase that had ppl saying the game had passed Saban by as he won the conference and got into the playoffs with his least talented roster in years. Good luck.
Bama is not bama. It was Saban. Just like Florida is not Florida , it was urban and the ol ball coach before that.
About half the schools in the sec can become juggernauts with the right coach. His passing attack and game day coaching is elite. Not sure if that will be enough when they're going to be outbid by other schools in the same conference.
To some extent, Oregon seems to live under that delusion, too.
Lots of teams, including those many "traditional" teams, go through long runs of mediocrity. But I wouldn't be so quick to shit on what at least Miami and FSU have contributed to the game. I don't see 5 titles and many other landmarks for Miami qualifying as "delusional". OTOH, individual markers that are almost entirely a function of being a good program for 85 years or more are not going to be in either program's record book for a while. If that's what you care about, then there's no arguing the point. I would say Florida State's run of 14 straight years of ending the season in the top 5 is a pretty impressive mark amongst all-time accomplishments.
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He convinced a ton of guys to stay when he got here, and added Penix and others. It was nothing like what he's got going on right now, but it's a different environment. It seems entering the portal is the thing to do now, even if you're planning on staying.Mitch_Cumsteen said:Did Deboer tear down the roster when he got to UW? How much turnover was there?
A big portion of what's going on at Bama is out of his control, but he doesn't seem to be doing shit to stop it either. -
Quite the opposite. It's easy to be friends with someone when you rape them two years in a row. It's actually the only reason there's still hope for you here.46XiJCAB said:
When your new found friend is Cutty Sark, you know the apocalypse is approaching.EsophagealFeces said:
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if he’s a drunk philanderer who is definitely my enemy.RaceBannon said:Texas is our new friend
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The January vs December timing is a big part of it too. Easier for a new coach to manage it all in December. Way more leverage for a smaller group of players in January, or at least the players think so.EsophagealFeces said:
He convinced a ton of guys to stay when he got here, and added Penix and others. It was nothing like what he's got going on right now, but it's a different environment. It seems entering the portal is the thing to do now, even if you're planning on staying.Mitch_Cumsteen said:Did Deboer tear down the roster when he got to UW? How much turnover was there?
A big portion of what's going on at Bama is out of his control, but he doesn't seem to be doing shit to stop it either. -
What a mess. No wonder they wanted Lanning.
