Hard to overstate how unprepared DeBoer is for the job he just took
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You’re missing the point. This isn’t an alternate universe.AtomicDawg said:
You're missing the point. Bama, LSU, Florida and UGA have been top 5 programs at different times. They have all sucked at different times. Saban builds a dynasty at any of those schools. Not just bama. Now that he is gone, there is no Saban discount for the bag hungry croots and transfers. It's not the same job it was a few weeks ago.FremontTroll said:
Bama and Florida’s histories aren’t comparable in any way.AtomicDawg said:He is going to a fanbase that had ppl saying the game had passed Saban by as he won the conference and got into the playoffs with his least talented roster in years. Good luck.
Bama is not bama. It was Saban. Just like Florida is not Florida , it was urban and the ol ball coach before that.
About half the schools in the sec can become juggernauts with the right coach. His passing attack and game day coaching is elite. Not sure if that will be enough when they're going to be outbid by other schools in the same conference.
In the world we live in Bama has more than twice as many national titles as Florida does conference titles.
In the world we live in Saban went to Bama and scared Urban out of the conference while Florida went on to ruin the careers of Muschamp, Durkin, McElwain, Mullen, and now Napier. -
interesting times.
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EWIWBIanimate said:interesting times.
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better hope saban is tanned, rested, and ready.
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Broken Clock right twice a day = Art ThielGeevis_and_Butthead said:
Oregon faggotry > Art ThielTurdBomber said:
Glad they never chose the bright purple helmets that Art Thiel called "Goofy Grape." Absolutely Horrible.
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Depends on what you mean by traditional. Bama is now in its own class apart from literally everybody else due to what Saban did there. Before that, it was very debatable. I grew up with Bama being little more than Ok but for a short run with Gene Stallings, who was a good coach. But it was a blip.Sandra6 said:
Yes, but UF, FSU and Miami all love to live under some delusion that they're traditional powers.FremontTroll said:
Bama and Florida’s histories aren’t comparable in any way.AtomicDawg said:He is going to a fanbase that had ppl saying the game had passed Saban by as he won the conference and got into the playoffs with his least talented roster in years. Good luck.
Bama is not bama. It was Saban. Just like Florida is not Florida , it was urban and the ol ball coach before that.
About half the schools in the sec can become juggernauts with the right coach. His passing attack and game day coaching is elite. Not sure if that will be enough when they're going to be outbid by other schools in the same conference.
To some extent, Oregon seems to live under that delusion, too.
Lots of teams, including those many "traditional" teams, go through long runs of mediocrity. But I wouldn't be so quick to shit on what at least Miami and FSU have contributed to the game. I don't see 5 titles and many other landmarks for Miami qualifying as "delusional". OTOH, individual markers that are almost entirely a function of being a good program for 85 years or more are not going to be in either program's record book for a while. If that's what you care about, then there's no arguing the point. I would say Florida State's run of 14 straight years of ending the season in the top 5 is a pretty impressive mark amongst all-time accomplishments. -
Boom! Facts.AtomicDawg said:
You're missing the point. Bama, LSU, Florida and UGA have been top 5 programs at different times. They have all sucked at different times. Saban builds a dynasty at any of those schools. Not just bama. Now that he is gone, there is no Saban discount for the bag hungry croots and transfers. It's not the same job it was a few weeks ago.FremontTroll said:
Bama and Florida’s histories aren’t comparable in any way.AtomicDawg said:He is going to a fanbase that had ppl saying the game had passed Saban by as he won the conference and got into the playoffs with his least talented roster in years. Good luck.
Bama is not bama. It was Saban. Just like Florida is not Florida , it was urban and the ol ball coach before that.
About half the schools in the sec can become juggernauts with the right coach. His passing attack and game day coaching is elite. Not sure if that will be enough when they're going to be outbid by other schools in the same conference. -
From the new cherry,
DeBoer to my knowledge has never taken a job where his development chops were not priority 1. This is where Bama whiffed in my stupid opinion. DeBoer is a nice person who convinced some studly players not to leave the burning heap at Washington post Jimminy Criket Lake. The model was more simple: This team sucks, we can’t beat Montana the fan base left and I’m a shining knight that will resurrect The Greatness of The Washington Huskies. Worked out great for DeBoer and the fans came back.
The Alabama model is drastically different. Nick Saban was a car salesman that attracted 5 star players year after year. He’s also a great coach and hired great coaches to put great players in positions to destroy the competition. Rinse and repeat. DeBoer will not be “Developing” these 5 star players because he won’t need to. Can he be a car salesman in the SEC? No idea. Doesn’t strike me as that and let’s be honest his recruiting skills were mediocre at best. Will Alabama turn into a developmental program for 3 and 4 star athletes. The answer is a resounding FUCK NO. DeBoer will be in the bread line fast after next years recruiting cycle if he can’t keep pace.
Yours truly,
Stupid
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Saban returns in two years. Batteries “recharged” and rescues what he built. Bill Snyder KSU 2.0 style.
He lies in State in the rotunda of Alabama’s Capitol, for as long as he wants, when his time comes.
100 years from now they tear down his statute because his team wasn’t diverse enough. Or something even dumber. -
Lame kitten is fucking hilarious. His twatter trolls are witty and I love them.EsophagealFeces said:
Hard agree. Kiffin is a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. Following Saban is an impossible task. Bringing in the northerner to fail is smart. Let him take the fall, then Kiffin or one of fat fuck Jimmy's other guys swoop in as the hero to save Bammer from the pit of despair, and Jimmy profits even more. I can't wait to see DeBoer as Minnesota's coach in a few years. Going to be special when Fisch inserts the rusty conical downrigger weight(I'm still working on a fishing related replacement for cheese grater/plunger).46XiJCAB said:Kiffin, replacing Saban would be “the dumbest follow ever.”
He made the mistake of following both PC and Fulmer.
He’s biding his time for the next two years.
Needs to work on his bedside manner when it comes to dealing with mental health issues and being recorded but no one other than me will remember that one.
