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Deboer and NIL
MelloDawg
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One of the most eyebrow raising moments was when Deboer was candid in his comments of UW's progress with NIL while Cohen was here months back. He never sounded impressed, suggested there was work to be done, etc. The University of Washington didn't all of a sudden start wanting to give a shit about football. What evidence exists that UW started caring about football enough to try and motivate an NIL collective, inspiring people to want to fork over millions of dollars to the program? Their first effort was Karen Ramming and look how that went. And then, why did Cohen leave for USC? Same reason.
This should surprise no one, certainly doesn't surprise me.
This should surprise no one, certainly doesn't surprise me.
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Citation needed.
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Alabama doesn’t have an incredible NIL program. Especially compared to the other top dogs in the SEC.
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Are they SEC poors?OreDawg said:Alabama doesn’t have an incredible NIL program. Especially compared to the other top dogs in the SEC.
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Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.
From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out? -
Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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I hope he got raped by a homeless guy on his way out of the arena.RaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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Will be interesting to see how Kalen does the remainder of the season after Georgia murders them and drags their corpse around town tied to a chariot.
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Are you not entertained?DawgDaze71 said:Will be interesting to see how Kalen does the remainder of the season after Georgia murders them and drags their corpse around town tied to a chariot.
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He’s a crip.RaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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I thought "The standard was the standard." If I'd known he really meant Alabama was the standard I would have savedRaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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More of this.EsophagealFeces said:
I hope he got raped by a homeless guy on his way out of the arena.RaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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I hope he got raped by a homeless guy on his way out of the arena.RaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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I’ll repeat… he has no idea what he’s gotten into. The Georgia plunger ring will be must see TV.RaceBannon said:
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The SEC. It just means more.DawgDaze71 said:Will be interesting to see how Kalen does the remainder of the season after Georgia murders them and drags their corpse around town tied to a chariot.
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DerekJohnson said:
The SEC. It just means more homeless guys trying to rape youDawgDaze71 said:Will be interesting to see how Kalen does the remainder of the season after Georgia murders them and drags their corpse around town tied to a chariot.
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Protection from @CFetters_Nacho_Lover though you’d seem him riding up from miles away he’d still wreck havoc on any unwilling (or willing) bottom.DerekJohnson said:EsophagealFeces said:
I hope he got raped by a homeless guy on his way out of the arena.RaceBannon said:Why doesn't he wear red? Bama fans already suspicious
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I couldn’t find it - but remember some DeBoner quote that was like “we were behind on NIL and we’re not there yet, but improving.”CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Citation needed.
You run the numbers on NIL versus reported payments to players and it never makes much sense. Lots of crowing about how Bama signed up 1,000 people to its monthly NIL in the last week. But that thousand pledges is maybe an extra $25k per month. That’s like… 2% the annual total some of the biggest collectives reportedly have as a budget.
So you’re left with this relying in a very outsized way on a few boosters that likely get tired of carrying the load once the novelty wears off (unless we get Bill Gates - faggy wink).
Which of course makes the Cougar bake sale to raise $2,000 to but 20 student athletes annual Peacock subscriptions even funnier.
Dannen seems to “get it” and I bet we see some stuff like tying NIL donations to Tyee - making people feel like they’re getting something back for this. And sounds like some of the local businesses actually did have decent pull last offseason.
But at the end of the day - keeping up short term sounds like it’s giving your best 5 to 10 boosters a better hand job. Clearly it’s improving with Dannen, which is funny since all you ever heard about Cohen is “how good” she was with boosters.
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Yes I distinctly remember DeBoer saying something like that. It followed Leopard Print saying (a few months earlier) "We're not riding in that lane. You don't want us in that lane."doog_codpiece said:
I couldn’t find it - but remember some DeBoner quote that was like “we were behind on NIL and we’re not there yet, but improving.”CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Citation needed.
You run the numbers on NIL versus reported payments to players and it never makes much sense. Lots of crowing about how Bama signed up 1,000 people to its monthly NIL in the last week. But that thousand pledges is maybe an extra $25k per month. That’s like… 2% the annual total some of the biggest collectives reportedly have as a budget.
So you’re left with this relying in a very outsized way on a few boosters that likely get tired of carrying the load once the novelty wears off (unless we get Bill Gates - faggy wink).
Which of course makes the Cougar bake sale to raise $2,000 to but 20 student athletes annual Peacock subscriptions even funnier.
Dannen seems to “get it” and I bet we see some stuff like tying NIL donations to Tyee - making people feel like they’re getting something back for this. And sounds like some of the local businesses actually did have decent pull last offseason.
But at the end of the day - keeping up short term sounds like it’s giving your best 5 to 10 boosters a better hand job. Clearly it’s improving with Dannen, which is funny since all you ever heard about Cohen is “how good” she was with boosters. -
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I had called Deboor Leech-esque, but Lincoln Reilly is the better comp.RaceBannon said: -
Help me stepdad, I’m stuck in the portal!RaceBannon said: -
Kalen DeBoer is a genius. Bama will buyout his contact in 6 months and he'll be laughing all the way to the bank. He'll buy a small fiefdom in South Dakota and retire as Baron DeBoer.
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I guess I'm hopeful that the fat cats had so much fun in Vegas, NO, and Houston that Husky football becomes their new hobby. Russian oligarchs of Medina buying women basketball teams shit. Is Lloyd still around here so we might get a pulse of what the upper crust might be thinking?DerekJohnson said:
Yes I distinctly remember DeBoer saying something like that. It followed Leopard Print saying (a few months earlier) "We're not riding in that lane. You don't want us in that lane."doog_codpiece said:
I couldn’t find it - but remember some DeBoner quote that was like “we were behind on NIL and we’re not there yet, but improving.”CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:Citation needed.
You run the numbers on NIL versus reported payments to players and it never makes much sense. Lots of crowing about how Bama signed up 1,000 people to its monthly NIL in the last week. But that thousand pledges is maybe an extra $25k per month. That’s like… 2% the annual total some of the biggest collectives reportedly have as a budget.
So you’re left with this relying in a very outsized way on a few boosters that likely get tired of carrying the load once the novelty wears off (unless we get Bill Gates - faggy wink).
Which of course makes the Cougar bake sale to raise $2,000 to but 20 student athletes annual Peacock subscriptions even funnier.
Dannen seems to “get it” and I bet we see some stuff like tying NIL donations to Tyee - making people feel like they’re getting something back for this. And sounds like some of the local businesses actually did have decent pull last offseason.
But at the end of the day - keeping up short term sounds like it’s giving your best 5 to 10 boosters a better hand job. Clearly it’s improving with Dannen, which is funny since all you ever heard about Cohen is “how good” she was with boosters. -
Mad_Son said:
Kalen DeBoer is a genius. Bama will buyout his contact in 6 months and he'll be laughing all the way to
theMilbank. He'll buy a small fiefdom in South Dakota and retire as Baron DeBoer. -
Honestly, what NIL bought player hasn’t done well at Oregon? Not all transfers are NIL bought as well.dannarc said:Dannen has been pretty clear that UW is going to have to do more with less. Less meaning more than most, but not as much as some. I think UW is going after NIL and fundraising enough to secure the potential to win championships, but not throwing tons of money at unproven commodities like Oregon does.
From my cynical vantage point UW does care about football and winning, I believe they offered DeBoer what they felt was appropriate with his experience, but the unknown was recruiting and was he worth that kind of money over that many years? How often do those massive contracts pan out?
