One positive of DeWhore burning us…

EsophagealFeces · January 15

We can now stop looking for the next Don James. That kind of coach doesn’t exist anymore. They’re all mercs, they’re all whores to the highest bidder, and they’ll all jump as soon as a perceived better job opens for a few more dollars. It was doogish and myopic to think that DeWhore was that guy, but at least we’ve had the scales removed from our eyes. The next Don James ain’t walking through that door, and he never will.

theknowledge · January 15

EsophagealFeces said:
We can now stop looking for the next Don James. That kind of coach doesn’t exist anymore. They’re all mercs, they’re all whores to the highest bidder, and they’ll all jump as soon as a perceived better job opens for a few more dollars. It was doogish and myopic to think that DeWhore was that guy, but at least we’ve had the scales removed from our eyes. The next Don James ain’t walking through that door, and he never will.

This. Win or GTFO. Win and they will LEAVE! Easy as a fan once you wrap your head around it.

coach_pete_JPG · January 15

He took the rag-tag band of retards with him?

WilburHooksHands · January 15

the fact that uw is actually actively adapting to this and realignment is all we can ask for

houseofpain247 · January 15

Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.

jecornel · January 15

Dedouche will never have another 25 months like he and his staff just had. Ever. The magic and the resurgence of an program over a short window of time. Now it’s lose a game and the fans will go nuts. The media gets in your face. He might enjoy that.

Let’s say he wins a natty in two years. The narrative will be he has a long way to go to catch Saban. Everything will be compared to Saban.

He could have built something meaningful at Washington and gotten a statue. But that wasn’t what he wanted. Oh well. He knew he had a rebuild in from of him and he hates recruiting.

wooderson92 · January 15

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.

The intro to presser Tuesday is a dinosaur of the dying age. We no longer care about your family, that fake "this is where I want to retire", mentioning Don James, and the raucous environment at Husky Stadium. Just STFU, roll up your sleeves, and get mat drills going.

dirtysouwfdawg · January 15

wooderson92 said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
The intro to presser Tuesday is a dinosaur of the dying age. We no longer care about your family, that fake "this is where I want to retire", mentioning Don James, and the raucous environment at Husky Stadium. Just STFU, roll up your sleeves, and get mat drills going.

This.

RoadTrip · January 15

It's just a professional sport. The college scam has been exposed in so many ways.

RoadTrip · January 15

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.

But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.

AtomicDawg · January 15

RoadTrip said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.

Does football not support itself and all the other sports? That is my assumption.

LawDawg1 · January 15

wooderson92 said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
The intro to presser Tuesday is a dinosaur of the dying age. We no longer care about your family, that fake "this is where I want to retire", mentioning Don James, and the raucous environment at Husky Stadium. Just STFU, roll up your sleeves, and get mat drills going.

STAY!!

RoadTrip · January 15

AtomicDawg said:

RoadTrip said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.
Does football not support itself and all the other sports? That is my assumption.

It does for now but you're paying the salaries and the hedge funds are profiting while not paying the same taxes you do. Did you think the endowment was paying for this scam?

Southerndawg · January 15

AtomicDawg said:

RoadTrip said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.
Does football not support itself and all the other sports? That is my assumption.

It does more than that. Winning football programs increase enrollments and endowments. Cauce understands this, which is why we finally have no shit support from the upper campus.

DoubleJDawg · January 15

Spot on re: not finding another Don James

In this day and age, the machine and culture of "the program" has to be owned by the athletic department and university, not the coach. Things regarding NIL/fundraising, etc., have gotten way too complicated, and it's too risky to build everything on top of one person. When Oregon loses a Cristobal, or eventually loses a Lanning, they just simply plug someone else in who looks like them who clears a certain bar for coaching/recruiting ability (there are 50+ new Cristobals and Lannings minted every year), and keep going. What their program is, and what they stand for (flash and frontrunning, har har) stays exactly the same, and the machine keeps running. Our athletic department has the heritage of hiring the football coach and just getting the fuck out of the way (other than doing things like going through the motions on NIL because it feels "icky"), with predictable results and outright panic when we lose a coach out of the blue like Peterman or DeBoer.

So while the hire is fine, what I want to hear from Dannen (soon), and what we? should ultimately judge him on, is charting a vision to what our program will be and how we will fix the resource gap to be amongst the on-going leaders in college football. Jedd Fisch, or any football coach for that matter, is not figuring this out for us, and shouldn't be tasked with it. Fucking figure it out and tell us how it's going to work, Dannen -- let's see it implemented and at full run rate by the time Fisch leaves in 3-4 years and as B1G full-share comes into being the year or two beyond that.

BundyDawg · January 15

Conventional wisdom is that no one wants to be the guy to follow a legend.

DeBoer won’t care. He will use Alabama for what it’s worth, and he’ll be off to the NFL if things work out with sabans recruits. Cold blooded.

whatshouldicareabout · January 15

BundyDawg said:
Conventional wisdom is that no one wants to be the guy to follow a legend.

DeBoer won’t care. He will use Alabama for what it’s worth, and he’ll be off to the NFL if things work out with sabans recruits. Cold blooded.

When @BundyDawg calls you cold blooded, that really means something

HFNY · January 15

Southerndawg said:

AtomicDawg said:

RoadTrip said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.
Does football not support itself and all the other sports? That is my assumption.
It does more than that. Winning football programs increase enrollments and endowments. Cauce understands this, which is why we finally have no shit support from the upper campus.

THIS. A good friend who is an Alabama fan told me yesterday that Alabama's enrollment has doubled since Saban became the head coach. Correlation isn't always causation but probably is in this case.

Regardless, UW has to operate in the world in which it finds itself rather than the world it wishes it was in. The NCAA may make changes to things (that can survive a court challenge) but in the meantime, it has to do the best it possibly can. Part of that is making sure Fisch has a very large buyout so that if he does leave after a few years, UW is in even better financial shape.

Kingdome_Urinals · January 15

HFNY said:

Southerndawg said:

AtomicDawg said:

RoadTrip said:

houseofpain247 said:
Agreed on all counts. This week has fundamentally changed how I view college football. In my mind it merely completed the transition from the amateur, regional, school focused sport that we all once loved to an official minor league business model.

I will be SHOCKED if Jeff Fisch coaches more than 3 seasons here and that's ok.

Buy a coach, buy a roster, win the games.

Lather, rinse, repeat. Every 3-5 years.
But why should this minor league professional sport be funded by the public's taxes? Seriously, if you actually believe "college" has much to do with preparing you for some enlightened career anymore, you haven't been paying attention. This wasn't directed at you personally. Why should these institutions of fraud get to be hedge funds and turn average, ordinary citizens into multimillionaires at our? expense.
Does football not support itself and all the other sports? That is my assumption.
It does more than that. Winning football programs increase enrollments and endowments. Cauce understands this, which is why we finally have no shit support from the upper campus.
THIS. A good friend who is an Alabama fan told me yesterday that Alabama's enrollment has doubled since Saban became the head coach. Correlation isn't always causation but probably is in this case.

Regardless, UW has to operate in the world in which it finds itself rather than the world it wishes it was in. The NCAA may make changes to things (that can survive a court challenge) but in the meantime, it has to do the best it possibly can. Part of that is making sure Fisch has a very large buyout so that if he does leave after a few years, UW is in even better financial shape.

Evidently hugh said it was 20 mil

WoolleyDoog · January 15

Yeah never bought the long-long-term DeBoer stuff. Hoped for like 4-5 years though and that fuck head would have focused on winning a national title here when they were in the fucking game over taking another job.

RaceBannon · January 15

At least Rick took his beatings in years 3 and 4 after his 2nd year success

DeBoer cut and ran.

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