Deboer gone

Kiss of death. Eklund says he’s staying.

- News: Kalen DeBoer was at the facilities today and it was "business as usual" according to several sources I spoke to.

- News: Have heard from several players (through acquaintances, family members, etc.) that a team meeting was led by DeBoer today and it was about wrapping up the season and also looking ahead to the start of the 2024 season (winter conditioning is considered the start of the season by the staff and players).

-- Thought: I could be completely naive here, but I just don't see a fit for Kalen DeBoer at Alabama. Could he win there? Absolutely. However, the Alabama fanbase expects top 5 recruiting classes every year (if not number one). I don't see him playing the games necessary to get to a top 5 class. Also, he's never coached in the south, none of the coaches he's coached with, to my knowledge, have ever coached in the south and they have very few contacts down there. Obviously, all of that could change, but it's definitely something to consider. Lastly, the south is a completely different animal than the midwest and west coast when it comes to football. The culture is so much different surrounding it all. At Alabama, a 9-3 record is reason to give a coach the boot. They expect you to be in the CFP every season at a minimum.

-- Thought: It's never good to be the guy who follows the legend. It's much better to be the guy who follows the guy who followed the legend. DeBoer knows this.

-- Thought: Norvell makes much more sense for many more reasons. He's coached and recruited the south, he's won at all of his stops (just like DeBoer) and with FSU's situation with the ACC, he may be much more willing to go to Alabama than DeBoer is to leave Washington.

-- Thought: If Alabama were to offer him 13 to 15 million per year, I'd be shocked if he turned that down.

-- Rumor: DeBoer signed an MOU with UW (heard this from mulitple sources), but it has since expired (there's a time limit on an MOU). I heard it was in the 9.5 to 10 million per year range, but that was before UW won the conference title and the Sugar Bowl and played for the national title. I believe, if UW is to keep him and get him to sign an extension, that he will need to get roughly 11 to 12 million and I also believe the assistant pool will have to be significant (5 million might not be enough). DeBoer takes care of his guys.

-- Thought: I just have a hard time seeing DeBoer leave UW at this juncture. His daughter is signed with UW. His family loves it here. He just bought a new house or is in the process of doign that. Obviously, all of that can change, but I just get the sense that he wants to keep his feet rooted here in in the PNW.

-- Thought: I don't believe this goes much longer. If it isn't Alabama, I don't see any other flirtations happening (at least in this coaching carousel cycle).

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EsophagealFeces

it’s going to be norvell.
This could assist his decision.

https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/1745610733025444031?s=20

That’s fucking bullshit. This is straight up retaliation against FSU for their actions after being left out of the CFP. Fuck the NCAA into the dirt. All that being said, Norvell would probably jump at the opportunity to GTFO with those sanctions coming.

CallMeBigErn

it’s going to be norvell.
This could assist his decision.

https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/1745610733025444031?s=20
That’s fucking bullshit. This is straight up retaliation against FSU for their actions after being left out of the CFP. Fuck the NCAA into the dirt. All that being said, Norvell would probably jump at the opportunity to GTFO with those sanctions coming.

FSU is trapped in a real shitty nightmare and we have to hope for it to get worse if its really down to DeBo vs Norvell. God I love this game.

HuskyHalfBrain

I hate myself for having similar sentiment as that faggot.

Kill me already.

dtd

The NCAA is worse than the IOC.

FireCohen

pack everything up and shoot the dogs, we have just lost boner....FUCK

Tequilla

i dont know fuck all about UW finances but do we really, honestly see them shelling out 15 million at bare minimum, according to him, for a coach and his team?

Regardless of the number it would come down to the big money signing off on ensuring the money is there

RaceBannon

The NCAA is worse than the ISIS

EsophagealFeces

The NCAA is worse than the IOC.

But still not quite as bad as FIFA. Amirite, @PurpleJ?

DoogmanRefund

The NCAA is worse than the ISIS

At least they actually believe in their cause!

CallMeBigErn

Every time I refresh and there's a new comment in this thread, my starfish contracts to protect itself.

dtd

The NCAA is worse than the ISIS

One of them is corrupt and incompetent.

GreenRiverGatorz

i dont know fuck all about UW finances but do we really, honestly see them shelling out 15 million at bare minimum, according to him, for a coach and his team?

$15m sounds exaggerated, but north of $10m does not. A full rev share in the new B1G TV deal will net the AD $15-20m more per year than the Pac-12 deal did. There's a lot more money about to come in and it'll get spent.

rodmansrage

it’s going to be norvell.
This could assist his decision.

https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/1745610733025444031?s=20

thats a big part of it, i also thing the fuckshow the ACC is/will become plays a part, you went undefeated, left out of the playoff*, you'll probably repeat, and get throttled in the expanded playoff because you're playing inferior competition all year.

i dont think cfb people in the south like 'us northerners,' and i think that plays a part of deboer staying. i also think jimmy sexton is floating a lot of this to get UW to up their offer, he shares an agent with saban, more power to him on that.

if deboer wants to chase the bag, go do it, but his ass will be on the hot seat if he goes to bama and puts up a performance like he did monday night. his ass is getting a pay raise at UW for losing by 21 in the natty. at bama, if he pulls that back to back years, he gets fired. again, if you want to get paid for four years, go do that, probably would rather be the guy following after the guy after saban though.

lastly, and i know this came before the saban retirement (sexton had to have known about this), but he made the comment 'a lot of the coaches got offers, but everyone is sticking around.' again, before the saban thing, but would be surprising.

also on the staff, no way deboer takes all of the UW staff, bama wont let him, theyll make him keep some of saban's staff for recruiting/continuity. again, if you want to get the bag, and get told what to do, go do it.

why hasnt sark's name come up in all of this? him and manning as a package? feel like we could get some good memes out of that.

*got fuckin throttled in your bowl game by backups but still

CallMeBigErn

Sark said no, reportedly, whatever THAT means.

One of my favorite thoughts is, how many championships do you need to get a statue at Bama? 7? How many at UW?

The more I think about it, it's completely out of character for KD to go to Bama, if his whole persona that he's curated over decades is to be believed. Gets more illogical the more I think about it. There's zero part of me that thinks he will go there because of Alabama "prestige" and to try to be the next Saban. Nah, this guy hits different and has a conscience. He's a culture builder and that's really not the same at Bama. That's a machine and he would be a cog. He's already seen what culture building at UW is like, and it's working. He wouldn't do us like that because it would eat at him forever. I truly believe he knows that deep down somewhere. That's just one reason he ain't goin, my trust in his brain, but there are more. It's a horrific fit for the KD I think I know and if I'm wrong, well, every foundation of trust around me will crumble to dust and my hermit/nomadic wanderer life will begin. I don't want that. Not yet.

Seven_Eleven

Sark said no, reportedly, whatever THAT means.

One of my favorite thoughts is, how many championships do you need to get a statue at Bama? 7? How many at UW?

The more I think about it, it's completely out of character for KD to go to Bama, if his whole persona that he's curated over decades is to be believed. Gets more illogical the more I think about it. There's zero part of me that thinks he will go there because of Alabama "prestige" and to try to be the next Saban. Nah, this guy hits different and has a conscience. He's a culture builder and that's really not the same at Bama. That's a machine and he would be a cog. He's already seen what culture building at UW is like, and it's working. He wouldn't do us like that because it would eat at him forever. I truly believe he knows that deep down somewhere. That's just one reason he ain't goin, my trust in his brain, but there are more. It's a horrific fit for the KD I think I know and if I'm wrong, well, every foundation of trust around me will crumble to dust and my hermit/nomadic wanderer life will begin. I don't want that. Not yet.

This sounds like boovs talking about Babushka...

The reality is that Alabama is the top prestige job in the country right now, and probably all time. Deboer has a shot at it right now, odds are he never will again.

PostGameOrangeSlices

Sark said no, reportedly, whatever THAT means.

One of my favorite thoughts is, how many championships do you need to get a statue at Bama? 7? How many at UW?

The more I think about it, it's completely out of character for KD to go to Bama, if his whole persona that he's curated over decades is to be believed. Gets more illogical the more I think about it. There's zero part of me that thinks he will go there because of Alabama "prestige" and to try to be the next Saban. Nah, this guy hits different and has a conscience. He's a culture builder and that's really not the same at Bama. That's a machine and he would be a cog. He's already seen what culture building at UW is like, and it's working. He wouldn't do us like that because it would eat at him forever. I truly believe he knows that deep down somewhere. That's just one reason he ain't goin, my trust in his brain, but there are more. It's a horrific fit for the KD I think I know and if I'm wrong, well, every foundation of trust around me will crumble to dust and my hermit/nomadic wanderer life will begin. I don't want that. Not yet.
This sounds like boovs talking about Babushka...

The reality is that Alabama is the top prestige job in the country right now, and probably all time. Deboer has a shot at it right now, odds are he never will again.

UW is going to the B1G instead of the WAC

Babushka remains if Beav was going with us

CallMeBigErn

Sark said no, reportedly, whatever THAT means.

One of my favorite thoughts is, how many championships do you need to get a statue at Bama? 7? How many at UW?

The more I think about it, it's completely out of character for KD to go to Bama, if his whole persona that he's curated over decades is to be believed. Gets more illogical the more I think about it. There's zero part of me that thinks he will go there because of Alabama "prestige" and to try to be the next Saban. Nah, this guy hits different and has a conscience. He's a culture builder and that's really not the same at Bama. That's a machine and he would be a cog. He's already seen what culture building at UW is like, and it's working. He wouldn't do us like that because it would eat at him forever. I truly believe he knows that deep down somewhere. That's just one reason he ain't goin, my trust in his brain, but there are more. It's a horrific fit for the KD I think I know and if I'm wrong, well, every foundation of trust around me will crumble to dust and my hermit/nomadic wanderer life will begin. I don't want that. Not yet.
This sounds like boovs talking about Babushka...

The reality is that Alabama is the top prestige job in the country right now, and probably all time. Deboer has a shot at it right now, odds are he never will again.

Prestige is the SEC Kool-Aid that the peasants drink up and think stands above all else. It's quite meaningless, especially for a person who hasn't drank the Kool-Aid their whole life, and there's a thousand other factors that would influence KDs decision. So what if Bama won championships and has a winning history? Big fucking deal, that's the past. KD would be 0-0 at Bama. Literally the only benefit would be to have a theoretically better high school talent pool available based on 247 rankings skewed towards southern players. This is the portal era and we just went to the Natty with scrubs. Fuck all that. KD is different and it's the same reason Petersen didn't go to USC or elsewhere from Boise. Not all coaches are egomaniac monsters thinking they're the man for Bama, especially a guy like KD, I truly believe it. I think Bama bout to be getting their 4th or 5th option just like USC and Carroll. It happens. There's a reason no coach besides Sark has left UW since we rubbed sticks together to make fire. This is not a stepping stone.

I hate this ride and I want off. Too scary.

Also the Babushka comparison is bad, arguably terrible.

FireCohen

The NCAA is worse than the ISIS

at least ISIS has principles

Canadawg

Why would Sark leave Texass for Bama? There's no clear advantage to doing that. Bama is Bama right now because of Saban

CallMeBigErn

The NCAA is worse than the ISIS

at least ISIS has principles

Principled without principles, maybe.