The Boys of '36 PBS documentary - now on YouTube

whlinder · December 2023

This was only available in full before if you donated to PBS but looks like PBS is getting on TBITB Free Pub train and making it available to everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwSo9fOVTjc

GrundleStiltzkin · December 2023

Watched it last night, good chit

pawz · December 2023

Query for my crew guysm.

How does it work that Don Hume is the one who effectively sets the pace? I know the coxswain yelling at all of them, and they are all working together to a large degree, but how does that single position cause, or mean so much for, the pace of the stroke?

@YellowSnow @whlinder

TIA

CFetters_Nacho_Lover · December 2023

Thanks Taft!

PurpleThrobber · December 2023

pawz said:
Query for my crew guysm.

How does it work that Don Hume is the one who effectively sets the pace? I know the coxswain yelling at all of them, and they are all working together to a large degree, but how does that single position cause, or mean so much for, the pace of the stroke?

@YellowSnow @whlinder

TIA

If you need instructions on the importance of the pace of the stroke, a visit to @Doog_de_Jour’s brothel might be in order.

The omission of Joe’s Rantz’ summer with Coulee City hookers would have cleared this all up.

creepycoug · December 2023

pawz said:
Query for my crew guysm.

How does it work that Don Hume is the one who effectively sets the pace? I know the coxswain yelling at all of them, and they are all working together to a large degree, but how does that single position cause, or mean so much for, the pace of the stroke?

@YellowSnow @whlinder

TIA

The stroke seat sets the pace and is often the most technically proficient rower. He's the guy everyone behind wants to copy to perfection so that they act as one. The guys behind in the middle are often a little stronger/bigger - aka the engine house - and then @whlinder or @YellowSnow should explain the person on the far back end. I've never known the strategy there. All in all, it's a subtle series of combinations that the coach gets to by a lot of trial and error to place people. Some people are stronger/faster, some are better on port and others starboard and some are equally good at both, and the geometry and style of the entire stroke movement is often better between some pairs vs. others. The coach is important in this sport. Any monkey can grab the 8 fastest 2K erg times and throw them in a shell. But the coach not only trains the living shit out them beyond what they could do on their own, but also finds that elusive perfect combination of placement all in an effort to just make the fucking thing go faster. All that shit starts with stroke seat.

Btw, the magic of the '36 boat is not only all the tuff liberal logger shit, but also having found that perfect combo of guys lined up expressly as they were. I've heard Moch talk about the big race and Hume being out of it, and hence the rest of the boat being out of it. Him coming out of his stuper and jamming it down the last whatever meters is a demonstration of the importance of the stroke seat.

Or I might have made all that up. I'm not sure.

YellowSnow · December 2023

creepycoug said:

pawz said:
Query for my crew guysm.

How does it work that Don Hume is the one who effectively sets the pace? I know the coxswain yelling at all of them, and they are all working together to a large degree, but how does that single position cause, or mean so much for, the pace of the stroke?

@YellowSnow @whlinder

TIA
The stroke seat sets the pace and is often the most technically proficient rower. He's the guy everyone behind wants to copy to perfection so that they act as one. The guys behind in the middle are often a little stronger/bigger - aka the engine house - and then @whlinder or @YellowSnow should explain the person on the far back end. I've never known the strategy there. All in all, it's a subtle series of combinations that the coach gets to by a lot of trial and error to place people. Some people are stronger/faster, some are better on port and others starboard and some are equally good at both, and the geometry and style of the entire stroke movement is often better between some pairs vs. others. The coach is important in this sport. Any monkey can grab the 8 fastest 2K erg times and throw them in a shell. But the coach not only trains the living shit out them beyond what they could do on their own, but also finds that elusive perfect combination of placement all in an effort to just make the fucking thing go faster. All that shit starts with stroke seat.

Btw, the magic of the '36 boat is not only all the tuff liberal logger shit, but also having found that perfect combo of guys lined up expressly as they were. I've heard Moch talk about the big race and Hume being out of it, and hence the rest of the boat being out of it. Him coming out of his stuper and jamming it down the last whatever meters is a demonstration of the importance of the stroke seat.

Or I might have made all that up. I'm not sure.

What @creepycoug said.

The most technically sounds guysm go in stroke, 7 and then 2 and bow. Bow needs to be especially good at balance because he has the most affect on how the boat sets up- ie not tipping from one side to another. The big mother fuckers like Yella go in the engine room which is 6, 5, 4 and 3 seats.

Stroke is your point gaurd and bow your shooting guard. Engine room is power forward and center.

pawz · December 2023

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

pawz said:
Query for my crew guysm.

How does it work that Don Hume is the one who effectively sets the pace? I know the coxswain yelling at all of them, and they are all working together to a large degree, but how does that single position cause, or mean so much for, the pace of the stroke?

@YellowSnow @whlinder

TIA
The stroke seat sets the pace and is often the most technically proficient rower. He's the guy everyone behind wants to copy to perfection so that they act as one. The guys behind in the middle are often a little stronger/bigger - aka the engine house - and then @whlinder or @YellowSnow should explain the person on the far back end. I've never known the strategy there. All in all, it's a subtle series of combinations that the coach gets to by a lot of trial and error to place people. Some people are stronger/faster, some are better on port and others starboard and some are equally good at both, and the geometry and style of the entire stroke movement is often better between some pairs vs. others. The coach is important in this sport. Any monkey can grab the 8 fastest 2K erg times and throw them in a shell. But the coach not only trains the living shit out them beyond what they could do on their own, but also finds that elusive perfect combination of placement all in an effort to just make the fucking thing go faster. All that shit starts with stroke seat.

Btw, the magic of the '36 boat is not only all the tuff liberal logger shit, but also having found that perfect combo of guys lined up expressly as they were. I've heard Moch talk about the big race and Hume being out of it, and hence the rest of the boat being out of it. Him coming out of his stuper and jamming it down the last whatever meters is a demonstration of the importance of the stroke seat.

Or I might have made all that up. I'm not sure.
What @creepycoug said.

The most technically sounds guysm go in stroke, 7 and then 2 and bow. Bow needs to be especially good at balance because he has the most affect on how the boat sets up- ie not tipping from one side to another. The big mother fuckers like Yella go in the engine room which is 6, 5, 4 and 3 seats.

Stroke is your point gaurd and bow your shooting guard. Engine room is power forward and center.

TYFYS

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