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Tequilla Thoughts - Stanford

Tequilla
Tequilla Member Posts: 20,216
We'll make this relatively short and sweet ...

We talk a lot about the players needing to learn and develop into a Championship caliber team. And while I still have no doubt that Chris Petersen is the right answer at the UW, he learned a very valuable lesson today. You can only run so many gimmicks against big boy teams and expect success. The decision to call a fake punt in a tie game at or around midfield on a 4th and long situation was JUST FLAT OUT THE WRONG CALL AT THE WRONG TIME IN THE WRONG SPOT. I get the idea of trying to jump start the offense and creating an opportunity to score. But the risk was far greater than the potential reward. And Petersen needs to learn the implications of that in how he manages a game. It's not that you want him to dial back the unpredictability that his teams have. But at the same time, there's a reason that the saying "discretion is the better part of valor."

Jeff Lindquist got destroyed after his performance against Hawaii in the second half - and rightfully so given that he looked like a deer in headlights. After 3 games, I think it's 100% fair to say that Cyler Miles has a dramatic inability to throw any midrange throw with accuracy and most importantly with ANY conviction. If your name is Troy Williams, you should be looking at the next 2 weeks as your opportunity to prove to the coaching staff that they can believe in you enough to know that you won't repeatedly make mistakes. Personally, I dramatically overestimated the abilities of Miles and he's been 100% exposed as a QB in much the same way that Lindquist and Nick Montana were.

For all the heat that the defense has taken, they absolutely played well enough today to win the game and created 3 turnovers (more on that in a second). Special teams was a bit hit and miss, but in general, these units were definitely good enough to win the game.

In contrast, while Miles' inability to throw an intermediate route is painfully obvious, even more startling, and IMO telling, is that it's apparent that Miles DOES NOT have command of the offense or the strong respect of their teammates. While Petersen values ball security and winning the turnover battle (which we are doing quite well in), it flat out doesn't matter if you can't do anything with those opportunities. Miles consistently looks disorganized and I'm not 100% confident that the players have 100% confidence in him. It's probably the most disturbing thing I watched in person today (other than the Mariners trying to finish a game).
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Welcome to seven hours ago.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,762
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    We'll make this relatively short and sweet ...

    We talk a lot about the players needing to learn and develop into a Championship caliber team. And while I still have no doubt that Chris Petersen is the right answer at the UW, he learned a very valuable lesson today. You can only run so many gimmicks against big boy teams and expect success. The decision to call a fake punt in a tie game at or around midfield on a 4th and long situation was JUST FLAT OUT THE WRONG CALL AT THE WRONG TIME IN THE WRONG SPOT. I get the idea of trying to jump start the offense and creating an opportunity to score. But the risk was far greater than the potential reward. And Petersen needs to learn the implications of that in how he manages a game. It's not that you want him to dial back the unpredictability that his teams have. But at the same time, there's a reason that the saying "discretion is the better part of valor."

    Jeff Lindquist got destroyed after his performance against Hawaii in the second half - and rightfully so given that he looked like a deer in headlights. After 3 games, I think it's 100% fair to say that Cyler Miles has a dramatic inability to throw any midrange throw with accuracy and most importantly with ANY conviction. If your name is Troy Williams, you should be looking at the next 2 weeks as your opportunity to prove to the coaching staff that they can believe in you enough to know that you won't repeatedly make mistakes. Personally, I dramatically overestimated the abilities of Miles and he's been 100% exposed as a QB in much the same way that Lindquist and Nick Montana were.

    For all the heat that the defense has taken, they absolutely played well enough today to win the game and created 3 turnovers (more on that in a second). Special teams was a bit hit and miss, but in general, these units were definitely good enough to win the game.

    In contrast, while Miles' inability to throw an intermediate route is painfully obvious, even more startling, and IMO telling, is that it's apparent that Miles DOES NOT have command of the offense or the strong respect of their teammates. While Petersen values ball security and winning the turnover battle (which we are doing quite well in), it flat out doesn't matter if you can't do anything with those opportunities. Miles consistently looks disorganized and I'm not 100% confident that the players have 100% confidence in him. It's probably the most disturbing thing I watched in person today (other than the Mariners trying to finish a game).

    tl;dr
  • EsophagealFeces
    EsophagealFeces Member Posts: 13,326
    Tequilla said:


    In contrast, while Miles' inability to throw an intermediate route is painfully obvious, even more startling, and IMO telling, is that it's apparent that Miles DOES NOT have command of the offense or the strong respect of their teammates. While Petersen values ball security and winning the turnover battle (which we are doing quite well in), it flat out doesn't matter if you can't do anything with those opportunities. Miles consistently looks disorganized and I'm not 100% confident that the players have 100% confidence in him. It's probably the most disturbing thing I watched in person today (other than the Mariners trying to finish a game).

    That was pretty concerning seeing several guys clearly angry and yelling at Miles. Not a sign of respect. Not very classy either, for that matter.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,659
    Tequilla said:

    We'll make this relatively short and sweet ...

    We talk a lot about the players needing to learn and develop into a Championship caliber team. And while I still have no doubt that Chris Petersen is the right answer at the UW, he learned a very valuable lesson today. You can only run so many gimmicks against big boy teams and expect success. The decision to call a fake punt in a tie game at or around midfield on a 4th and long situation was JUST FLAT OUT THE WRONG CALL AT THE WRONG TIME IN THE WRONG SPOT. I get the idea of trying to jump start the offense and creating an opportunity to score. But the risk was far greater than the potential reward. And Petersen needs to learn the implications of that in how he manages a game. It's not that you want him to dial back the unpredictability that his teams have. But at the same time, there's a reason that the saying "discretion is the better part of valor."

    Jeff Lindquist got destroyed after his performance against Hawaii in the second half - and rightfully so given that he looked like a deer in headlights. After 3 games, I think it's 100% fair to say that Cyler Miles has a dramatic inability to throw any midrange throw with accuracy and most importantly with ANY conviction. If your name is Troy Williams, you should be looking at the next 2 weeks as your opportunity to prove to the coaching staff that they can believe in you enough to know that you won't repeatedly make mistakes. Personally, I dramatically overestimated the abilities of Miles and he's been 100% exposed as a QB in much the same way that Lindquist and Nick Montana were.

    For all the heat that the defense has taken, they absolutely played well enough today to win the game and created 3 turnovers (more on that in a second). Special teams was a bit hit and miss, but in general, these units were definitely good enough to win the game.

    In contrast, while Miles' inability to throw an intermediate route is painfully obvious, even more startling, and IMO telling, is that it's apparent that Miles DOES NOT have command of the offense or the strong respect of their teammates. While Petersen values ball security and winning the turnover battle (which we are doing quite well in), it flat out doesn't matter if you can't do anything with those opportunities. Miles consistently looks disorganized and I'm not 100% confident that the players have 100% confidence in him. It's probably the most disturbing thing I watched in person today (other than the Mariners trying to finish a game).

    ok
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Maybe someone who was at the game can say, but was Ross ever open on a deep vertical route?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,216
    You flat out can not play the QB position at a high level if you do not have the buy in of your teammates to believe in you no matter what.

    For better or worse, the decisions that Miles made in the offseason will linger with him and I can definitely see it being hard for players to have buy in with him - particularly given the fact that he's not performing as it is.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,216

    Welcome to seven hours ago.

    Hardy har har

    And fuck off for the fact that a) I have a life and do other things other than sit in my sweatpants and b) don't read the entire board before I make my fucking post